El Horrible. Nice tag. Thanks. I need to clarify that. Rape is not a crime of sexual desire. It is a crime of violence. I am sure that objects that could reach the colon were sometimes used.
I challenge you to question your assumption that punitive wartime rape doesn't have a sexual desire component. I also challenge your authority to make declarative statements regarding the drive or intention behind sexual violence, especially of such a punitive violent nature. This piece reads as trauma porn and I question what purpose this serves beyond further dehumanizing these women, and women in general.
Punitive wartime rape is a wound the male community needs to address and come to terms with. It is ubiquitous in war, and I personally do not accept that the mass torture and rapes of these women and others throughout history can be dismissed to a temporary stress state these men find themselves in.
Instead of publishing these images, images which the male community seems to obsess over (e.g. rape of Nanking), and claiming that wartime rape doesn't have a sexual drive component I think we need to ask "is this simply what happens when a community of women is left without protection, and men are allowed access to them?"
We have passed the point where posting images of snuff or graphic rape is helpful. Additionally I would urge you to consider that there will absolutely be people who use these images for self pleasure.
I think it isn't SIMPLY what happens when a community of women is left unprotected, though I believe that's part of it. Combat keeps fighting men in a state of very high anxiety and emotional arousal for months on end. Chronic emotional over-arousal isn't good for people's functioning. Just look at the behaviour of over-excited people in other contexts. Impulsiveness and general lack of control typically follow. In adults, sexual arousal can also follow in people who otherwise wouldn't exhibit it inappropriately. It's very difficult to study this scientifically (virtually impossible, really), because the circumstances of war don't permit that.
Nothing about this excuses rape in war or any other circumstance. Rape is repugnant in any circumstances, as far as I'm concerned.
...its about rewriting dna and power over dna of a nation...but now ALL FEMALES GONNA GET PROTECTION FROM SOURCE AND BAD MALES GONNA GET RAPES IN WAR, PORN ETC...AND NO ONE WILL STOP IT AS NO ONE OF YOU MALES STOPPED PORN TO EXIST
Heidi, dig a little? That’s neither how journalism nor academia works. Both use references to primary and secondary sources. This article had no ballast, nothing to help it stay upright. It was simply a rant.
How bad was rape in Germany in the post-war period, statistically speaking? No idea. Compared to the Darfur, South Sudan, the Memphis Riots of 1866? Was it merely a result of the heat of battle, or was it institutionalized? Compared to the Rape of Nanking? Compared to Auschwitz?
A smidgen of academic or journalistic integrity would go a long way.
I have not questioned or made light of rape. I have questioned the article.
[EDIT: I re-read Bray's original post, and am dis-recommending my own comment below. I read too quickly the first time and ran with an immediate impression that I don't think is legitimate here. --C.M.]
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It's okay to question things, no matter what.
But no one is questioning the occurence of evil acts committed during war. It's likely that physical abuse, destruction, rape, and murder were committed in all wars by the smaller number of vile elements that are present in all armies.
The point here is, for example, that photos are being shown without identification of what they represent. Who's who? What was the context? What actually happened in each? Do any of these represent killings -- wrong as they may be -- of traitors or spies? Is every photo where men are present and women are abused -- is every such photo proof of rape and capricious murder? Automatically? Without any outside explanation of what we're looking at?
And who are the bad guys in these photos? Are these all Russians? Americans? French? Germans? Who are we pinning the blame on in the cases presented here?
Barnett makes an important point. There is no attempt here to identify the source of these photos, nor who are portrayed in them, nor what was going on in any of them, etc.
Without factual information to explain the sad, emotion-laden photos, all that can be done here is to move on in disappointment or else to assume ungrounded conclusions based merely on emotion.
Well, I have no doubt about the ad hoc, personal (or perhaps sometimes sanctioned) evils committed in wars. It's truly sad and disgusting.
One small part of the reason why nations should question and resist any push toward war itself. Most of them haven't been for self-defense anyway but were manipulations for the benefit of higher interests than the world's peoples can even see.
Am I missing something? Was this posted under the pretext of being journalism or research? If I understand you, people should not post such jarring images unless they are one of those 2 categories? To me, I took it as merely thought-provoking, to unbury a hidden past. And quite frankly, much of, as in almost all of, our history is totally fabricated by the victors. So any research risks merely repeating a claimed story. What I am learning now from extensive reading of history, in the light of new analysis, and people's access to have a voice or share testimonies, photos, etc., that didn't exist just a few years ago, the history of World War II is being rewritten. It's there in plain sight if you care to look, but I'm not about to share hundreds of hours of my reading to update your understanding. It's there if you want to find it, and evolving by the day as more truths emerge. And we can see similar atrocities happening in 2026, very similar indeed. To me, this post does more than enough. It reminds us of what humans are capable of, and secondly, it reminds us that some people are more equal than others, as history like this gets buried, never discussed, while other parts of history are taught repeatedly every week from cradle to grave.
I agree that history is written by the victors and that even major narratives can be falsified and backed up by evidence either fabricated or presented out of context, etc. I agree that WWII was largely misrepresented by the victors, much of that narrative having been founded on flimsy foundations that we're all afraid to question.
But if I use photos without any identification, without any context, photos without any exposition about where or when they were taken or about who's in them, I could make up any number of narratives that more or less match the scenes and claim that the photos back me up.
Having said that, of course it's fine for someone to use photos without footnotes to accompany one's article on a subject. But if it appears as though one is relying on those photos as evidence to support what one is saying, it makes a reader halt and ask for details.
On my original read-through, that's how it struck me. Maybe I should re-read.
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[EDIT LATER: I just re-read the original piece and think I was wrong in pushing the details complaint. I think it was a great post and sincere and based on research the man obviously made. As well, he referenced a documentary on the subject at which we could check evidence ourselves, etc. --C.M.]
You've also got to understand the mind of the western man. A majority of us are circumcised so one of the first sexual experiences we have is being stimulated to erection so we can have a piece of skin with 20,000,000 nerve ending forcibly removed from th glans penis which it is FUSED to. For Jewish boys it's twice as bad. The mohel (A scary stranger with a big beard), while your dad holds down your hands and your grandfather holds down your feet jams a sharpened thumbnail into you urethra and peels the foreskin off. Then cuts it at the base to remove it finishing by sucking the blood off and wrapping it in a rag. Essentially we are ritually abused. At birth for Christians at eight days of age for Jews. So wether we know it or not we are damaged. When your first sexual experience is forced on you and involves likely the greatest pain you'll ever feel often to the point of disassociation there are reprocutions.. I'm not sure if you've heard the phrase "The neurons that fire together wire together. ", but anyone who was circumcised has sex and violence wired together in their mind along with small portions of their brains that were damaged irrevocably from the overstimulation of intense torturous pain. Then they hand you back to mom.
Your explicit description of infant circumcision in sexual terms, and the framing of a medical procedure as a "sexual experience" is deeply inappropriate. You are sexualizing infants and children.
Circumcision is not a sexual experience. It is a medical procedure. Imposing sexual meaning onto routine pediatric care is disturbing and reflects a profoundly inappropriate mindset.
Female genital mutilation is a separate issue and trying to make a parallel between FGM and male circumcision is legitimately a violent act, and an attempt to erase one of the most horrific practices still affecting countless women. These practices are not comparable. People who suffer from FGM or other rape sustained genital mutilation have permanent injuries that cause frequent or constant pain. They are also able to form memories and process this violation which again is not a non invasive medical procedure like western circumcision.
Your argument also reflects a troubling pattern of redefining discomfort or disagreement with medical decisions as "sexual abuse." This dilutes the meaning of actual sexual violence and harms survivors by appropriating their experiences to validate personal grievances. Similar to people equating an uncomfortable Pap smear with rape.
If you have concerns about circumcision practices, address them through appropriate medical and ethical channels and perhaps through advocating within your own cultural group which practices this more than others. But sexualizing children to make your point is unacceptable, and framing a standard medical procedure as sexual trauma is both factually wrong and harmful.
Additionally trying to insinuate that all men are somehow incapable of being held responsible for rape because of repressed trauma in infancy is outrageous and also doesn't hold up since women who are violated as children don't seem to be partaking in punitive wartime rape or mass rape in general.
So in the end our esteemed colleague has shown that she lacks an understanding of natural law (harmful acts that deprive a sentient lifeform of personal autonomy or property.). Objective morality (The medically unnecessary removal of the protective covering of the pleasure center of the sexual organ, knowing that it could cause death, dismemberment, or infection is okay if it's a boy, but an abomination if it's a girl. A cultural bias (The medically unneccessary culturally accepted and sometimes religiously required practice of genital mutilation in American and Israeli cultures is a routine medical procedure. The same in the culture of some African tribes is a violation of bodily autonomy. Essentially what we see here is bigotry toward the male of the species and a disregard for deep seated trauma from birth. Not just the adult male, who is likely her target. I haven't even mentioned military group think or basic training as trauma based mind control yet. Harm is harm. Human beings all process trauma differently. Some go through more than others. This is not a ubiquitous feature of a man's drive to procreate, but a trauma response. It doesn't excuse the actions, but I'm not trying to explain why but how.
1.) You called circumcision a man's first sexual experience and likened normal medical confinement to being held down and raped. You also explained aspects of the ritual circumcision performed by Jews, as if that's relevant to the world population of men as a whole, and insinuating it's also a Christian practice, which it is not. Most normal adults don't want to hear anyone discussing children's erections especially when eroticizing a normal medical practice.
2.) You can argue against circumcision as a practice. What I'm negating is your claim that it's a form of sexual violence and that it causes some core wound in men similar to rape induced PTSD. Just like an uncomfortable Pap smear is not rape, circumcision is not rape.
3.) You're mentioning a one off case of medical abuse following a botched circumcision. Again I'm not pro circumcision I'm against eroticizing normal cultural practices, especially those involving children. If you want to advocate against circumcision that's totally fine, but likening it to rape is unacceptable and a spit in the face to survivors of sexual violence.
4.) Sexual genital mutilation sustained during rape is horrific, women who are FGM sufferers have their clitoris intentionally chopped off completely. That is not what happens in circumcision. It is something grown adult men seek out for cosmetic reasons, it's not a form of torture. FGM is forced torture to destroy a woman's sexual pleasure forever, it also involves sewing the vagina shut. This attempt to parallel circumcision with FGM is another sad attempt low functional low achieving men use to seek sympathy.
5.) There's no global medical consensus against circumcision. U.S. health organizations recognize health benefits, and WHO recommends it for HIV prevention. Your foreskin/clitoral hood comparison is anatomically wrong; removing some foreskin doesn't eliminate sexual function like removing the clitoris does in FGM. There's absolutely no medical literature that will support the claims you're making.
You came into and discussion about punitive wartime rape, specifically about people (falsely) claiming rape doesn't have a sexual component, only to eroticize childhood circumcision and claim circumcision (which you liken to women have their vaginas chopped up by broken glass) is the reason men commit rape.
Rape rates are not lower in countries without circumcision. You're part of a population that makes up .2% of the world citing weird cultural practices everyone else already agrees are weird including normal people within your own community. The connection you're drawing doesn't exist, you're just reaching so hard to excuse men committing rape I'm surprised you haven't pulled your back out.
You're kind of missing the nuance of the situation. From a neuroprocessing perspective if a system has one purpose the brain processes it's functionality as that kind of stimulus especially if there is absolute 0 frame of reference. So when you add to that the absolute worst pain you will ever feel in your entire life the neurons that process that kind of stimulus wire to the neurons that process intense pain. MRI studies were done on infants undergoing the “procedure “ It showed damage to the parts of the brain linked to trust, reasoning, and emotional processing. Baseline functionality in these areas never returned exhibiting the same patterns as PTSD. Add to that the fact that beating the brakes off of your son throughout childhood was a near ubiquitous phenomenon at the turn of the 20th century. The trauma based mind control and installation of group think mentality in military training along with the stresses of war where death and decay are your constant companions it's unlikely that a few people aren't going to crack completely. Add group think to that and you come up with a real good recipe for a number of warped pathologies. Is wartime gang rape a feature of the male rather than a flaw in their wiring? Not to my reasoning. It's just another symptom of a sick society where people have no respect for harmful VS. Unharmful acts, and an objective morality that shows a flawed understanding of right and wrong.
What sexual terms. Stimulate an election. Suck the blood off. There's no other terms to describe it in. That's what the specific practitioners do. To someone incapable of consenting to a medical procedure or a sex act. Violating a person's bodily autonomy is wrong at any age. At this point what's your stance on abortion? Let me guess, "My body. My choice.". Where's his choice in the matter.
Gotta love autocorrect. I'm just saying that any medical association outside the US or Israel has marked circumcision as a barbaric act with no medical necessity that violates the bodily autonomy of someone incapable of saying no or defending themselves. Given a vast global consensus I tend to agree seeing as the foreskin serves an analogous purpose to the clitoral hood. Your double standards are laughable. Also children bleed out, have their glans cut off, or their penis bunt to ablation from little mishaps. One of these mishaps happened to one of a set of twins which built the beginnings of Trans theory. Psychiatrist John Money then psychologically abused the two boys attempting to transition the injured one to female. Money called his work a success. Her brother died of a heroine overdose, and he goes by the name David.
Male circumcision is practiced by certain religions the world over because of gods covenant with Abraham. It has nothing to do with the government of Israel or the United States. Jews and Muslims alike circumcise their childrean as do many others for their own reasons. Tell you this, I'd rather circumcise an 8 day old, yell mazel tov and have a bagel and lox, then circumcise a 30 year old for the various medical conditions that can pop up.
This was one of the reasons I found reasonable to leave the country and give birth elsewhere. This is very likely in the hospital with a forced hep B shot and vit K given to a baby by the nurse without mothers consent. Check South Korea too where I heard that most mothers dont just pick up and leave over this.
I think, any valid information, as it pertains to the "defeated" in any warfare is welcome. You cannot use the logic " what Hitler did to us, makes this inevitable". Remember Japan got two nuclear bombs for one Pearl Harbor! Justifiable, as it saved millions of lives on both sides.
It is indeed a crime of violence, and the risk stats underline that. Men convicted of rape do not have an increased risk of future sexual offences, compared with other prisoners, but they DO have an increased risk of future violence offences. Their previous records also reflect that. In other words, they are men who can't take No for an answer.
Hanson, R. K., & Bussière, M. T. (1998). Predicting relapse: A meta-analysis of sexual offender recidivism studies. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 66(2), 348-362.
Hanson, R. K., & Morton-Bourgon, K. E. (2004). Predictors of sexual recidivism: An updated meta-analysis. Toronto, Ontario.
Both of these were Canadian government documents, and freely available from its website.
Similar results for juvenile sex offenders were found by McCann and Lussier. (2008). Antisociality, Sexual Deviance, and Sexual Reoffending in Juvenile Sex Offenders: a meta-analytical investigation. Youth Violence and Juvenile Justice, 6, 363-385.
A number of studies have noted that rape isn’t a single offence type. For example, some rapists have a deviant interest in children, or in sadism. These are more likely to commit further sex offences, while for rapists as a whole the degree of violence used in their offence is not predictive. They often reoffend, but not usually for a further rape offence. There's a strong element of general antisociality in rapists, so they tend to commit other kinds of offence as well. Those with specialised deviant interests are less likely to do so.
A colleague, who used to be the Crime Reduction Commissioner for SE England, states that the risk of further rape is higher amongst those ACQUITTED of rape than it is amongst those convicted of it. He didn't give me a source, and I wasn't that interested in the topic at the time, but he is not given to making such statements without evidence.
True, and they weren't meant to. They were in response to further comments about the nature of rape generally, not specifically about the occupation period in Germany.
The British army has burned alive resistance fighters in Cyprus, the Queen refused to pardon a 17 year old Cypriot boy for being a terrorist, in other words fighting for the liberation of Cyprus, and he was hanged but I'm sure the British are not monsters.
If you ever manage to pull your head out of your arsehole, you’ll learn that the Royal Air Force bombed German cities and towns before the Luftwaffe reacted in kind!
So the fucking arsehole that you are believes that raping German women by the Allied and Soviet soldiers was justified, because of the Blitz??!! 🖕
As for why England bankrupted itself to wage another war on Germany, here’s a clue: it wasn’t Fascism!
“You must understand that this war is not against Hitler or National Socialism, but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all, regardless of whether it is in the hands of Hitler or a Jesuit priest”
My mom was a German teenager and also raped during WWII. Unfortunately, PTS was not really known then as it is now. My mom and dad’s generation didn’t know how to seek the help they needed. She came to America through Ellis Island and suffered as an immigrant from Nazi Germany even though she became a United States Citizen. She was so proud that accomplishment. Anna Anita Hildegard Sparwasser suffered in silence most of her life because of what she lived through in Germany. My grandmother suffered through two wars as a German citizen. I hate war, it affects the children, the children’s children up to 3-4 generations.
But equally if the US hadn't had Op. Paperclip then those same scientists would have ended up building rockets for Russia. The world is an imperfect place and often the choices that are made aren't right. They are just the least wrong.
Tnx for sharing. My dad was a 17 year old Berliner (German Dad, Polish Mom) that was in the Battle of Berlin direct from his anti-aircraft "high school" in Berlin. I am gen X, grew up in California...and got fed up and truth bombed all my older family relatives that tried to pretend this thing did not happen. This did not make more popular in the SF Bay Area but I stopped giving a damn...I actually met some others throughout the years that understand the SITREP of the time.
The biggest mistake we’ve made in the last 150 years was getting involved in WWI in 1917. Every foreign involvement after that folly has been avoidable.
And as far as I’m concerned, the people responsible for that folly were infected with European ideas.
We should have watched from a distance snd let WWI play out just as the majority of ordinary Americans wanted.
Agree UK should’ve made a deal with Hitler and stood away while the Nazis and Italians ( Spain would’ve joined ) took on Russia and we supplied the arms as part of the deal. America was falling apart and dying from its own stupidity with no work food or Any way out of the depression. Britain would’ve waited whilst we developed the Bomb then when Germany were exhausted took them over and produced parliament to all the nations and Queen Elizabeth 2 would’ve ruled them All 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Except that Germany was also developing the bomb and a delivery system in the V2 with a 2nd stage that could not only destroy the UK but also the eastern seaboard of the USA.
Maybe a nuclear weapon could have been produced by the USA prior to Germany getting it but the timing would have been very close and the consequences far reaching.
Deutschland hat die Wasserstoffbomben bereits vor dem Waffenstillstand gebaut. Sie wurden nur nicht eingesetzt.
Die Geschichte um Oppenheimer ist ein tolles Material, um Propagandafilme im US-Kino zu zeigen und den Leuten zu erzählen, dass die Atombombe von den Amerikanern gebaut wurde. Aber das ist eine Lüge. Wenn man sich anschaut, welche Wissenschaftler durch Paperclip nach Übersee gebracht wurden, stellt man fest, dass es nur die zweite oder dritte Garde war. Die erste Garde war schon lange abgetaucht.
Yes, but which particular group from Germany pushed their ‘crackpot’ philosophies and have now contaminated the West and infiltrated every institution/politics/media/medicine/TV/films. That’s right, the ones you can never criticise!!
A lot of bad ideas came out of Germany - and the Americans lapped them up greedily. Along with many other bad ideas coming out of England and America (from Charles "We are nothing but animals" Darwin and John "Progressive education" Dewey.
Also, as I understand, progressive ideas were absorbed by the sons of wealthy Americans while attending university in Germany in the nineteenth century.
You may very well be right. Dewey could have been influenced by German ideas. Now that I think about it, there may be close parallels with his ideas and the German public educational system.
On the other hand, we can't blame the entire secularist movement on the Germans. There were home-grown elements, and the turning away from traditional religion was a general Western phenomenon.
I really doubt it was the German "philosophies" that contaminated America. I suspect and suggest that it was/is the escaped Nazis who made it to the Americas after the war. Of the over 80,000 Nazis who actually committed the atrocities of WW2, less than 200 were held accountable in the Nuremburg Trials. The rest escaped Germany and went to other countries where they hid like the cowards they really were. Considering the law of averages, it's no stretch to suspect that a significant number made it to US, hid in plain sight, married and passed their hateful ideology onto their children and grandchildren. (I suspect Mrs. Alito is the offspring of an escaped Nazi considering her public ethnic claim and threat.) Hence, when PAB gave the whistle, there was an increased public display of the white supremacist groups, public threats and shootings and the infiltration of law enforcement by white supremacists. They all came out from under their rocks. In the required annual FBI report to Congress in 2020 (which was delayed), the greatest threat was determined to be domestic terrorism with support of white supremacist groups.
BUT as far as the average German, the baker, the housefrau, the cobbler, the biermeister i.e. the common people, they were as deluded as the MagHags here are. They were targeted and overwhelmed by propaganda by the Nazis (just like mainstream media is trying to overwhelm US now with nothing but PAB crap on the world stage--Meanwhile, ICE, DOJ, Eloon, etc. continue their attacks on groups and families). As the Nazis seized power, they realized they had to have the support of the German people; i.e. the people had to be convinced that everything they were proposing was all right, was LEGAL. Until then the German judiciary was considered a worldwide standard, i.e. organized, fair, civil rights respected, fair and logical constitution, etc. Within 30 days of Hitler's becoming Chancellor, the courts passed over 130 laws legalizing the persecution and murder of Jews and other 'undesirables'; it became daily occurrences to see Jews gathered for deportation, their properties seized, etc. by local law enforcement. Extraordinary powers were given to local authorities and they also benefitted from the seizure of properties and sudden business opportunities.
I highly recommend viewing the documentary, "Hitler's Courts" which describes the timeline and chronicles the atrocities of the Nazis as they invaded and corrupted the German judiciary and overwhelmed the common German with propaganda. Also consider the Potsdam Agreement that formally adjudicated that the German people as a whole were responsible for Hitler and Nazi atrocities, whether they fought in the army or not. Or research the massive expulsion of ethnic Germans and even German-speaking people from countries in Europe. Tens of thousands of Germans were rounded up and sent back to Germany. Those who traveled by railroad very often rode on the same routes as trains did to the concentration camps, some even in the same cars. Of those who traveled by foot, many groups were ambushed and machine-gunned down en masse, their bodies pushed into ditches and left to rot. NO ONE ESCAPED THE HORRORS OF WW2 and its aftermath. I'm NOT trying to sanction the actions of the PAB supporters at all; I'm saying consider how you can protect yourself and your loved ones from this dangerous, creeping brutality; ask yourself what are you willing to do to stop it?
Know this: we are NOT alone in our protests, Folks. There is an increase of protests worldwide against authoritarian and non-democratic government actions: Serbia, Georgia, Hungary and Turkey, to name several. Go out to independent media sources and see for yourselves; use DuckDuckGo.com or gibiru.com as your search engines, avoid google and its skewed algorithms and ads. Search out YouTube channels from other countries; you may be surprised at how many are in English and even more surprised at their perspectives. BUT also search out the compassionate and non-political channels, create a place where you can listen to music or watch animals, be educated on gardening 'hacks', be soothed by sounds and sights that mainstream media is denying US now. You still have the right and ability to choose; some countries don't have that option. <Fin>
I'm not sure that we are both talking about the same things here.
1. Democrats are hostile to the best interests of the American people. Their attempts at portraying patriotic Americans as terrorists and so-called domestic extremists is a perfect example of the propagandizing attempts of the Nazis.
2. The only connection between my "crack pot German ideas" comment and the Nazis is that Nazism was an outgrowth that environment. I was referring to ideas of Schleiermacher, Marx, Engels and Hegel. The whole notion of historicity is secularist superstition.
3. According to what I've been reading about totalitarianism, it is a mass psychology phenomenon. The Nazis did not invent German totalitarianism, they merely bubbled to the top of a pre-existing totalitarian wave and led it. We are seeing the same mass psychology phenomenon now in this country and it probably eventuate pretty much the same way.
William Tecumseh Sherman said that war is hell because it is hell. It has been gross stupidity in the 20th and 21st centuries that war has been portrayed otherwise.
Ukraine is a good example of a war that is desirable for people who don't fight in the front lines and see the slaughter.
America's involvement in the world wars, Korea, Vietnam and probably the rest has been stupidity since we could have done better by avoiding those wars.
I heard that my great grandfather worked with a German in his machine shop in Liverpool. The German was always bragging about Germany’s destiny and how it would show up Britain. That was the spirit in Germany at the end of the nineteenth century. I wonder if they’ve changed at all.
I grew up in California but I could see my dad sink into a depressed state over WW2 which is why I did not bring it up that much other than to ask what is like to grow up in WW2 Berlin, 1928-1945. That entire story on that side of the family was one big Debby Downer. It's basically how he ended up in the USA. I spent 20 years in US Military where the one war that is consistently celebrated....except it is the one war not celebrated in my home growing up. However, I did end up meeting other Germans with the same dry dark sense of humor. For example...we used to do this thing called the "German Dance" in night clubs in SF back in the 90s. It is the one where you get hit with like 100 bullets in a movie but your body is just spinning around and around before falling. Then one British guy gets nicked in the shoulder and the music starts up and he is like "OY MATE, I'VE BEEN SHOT!". We would laugh and be like "GREAT JOB BRO...YOU JUST SLAUGHTERED LIKE 100 WHITE GENTILES, YOU MUST FEEL SO PROUD!"
I know that this doesn't erase the pain your mom has gone through but I am sorry she had to go through it. I hope she's doing well now! And I am glad that she has someone like you to rely on.
The woman in the white underwear, running and screaming is Jewish. The photograph is from the pogrom of Lvyv 1941. At least use proper pictures for your disgusting propaganda.
I really can’t believe some German people and it seems many women can continue to lack empathy for her sisters. They deserve this and that. No, no one deserves to be raped and tortured.
There weren't many Jewish women left when the Russians came. Most of them were either shot, beaten or gassed to death by the kind, cultured and civilized Germans.
Not my point. Yes, women can be horrible human beings. Yes, men count too. And yes, war rape is a thing. I could have also said, children pay for war, coming and going. That would have been even more true.
M not sure that English troops carried out these atrocities. They were governed by very strict Marshall’s in all three services land air and sea. The pictures are horrific but I don’t trust the context you are giving. One of the pictures has already been ‘called out’ as that of a Jewish woman caught up in a pogrom.
Hi Darryl. Fair question. The evidence is overwhelming that the Russians were ordered to rape. A look at the American soldiers, all smiling, as two women were being abused, tells me they were doing it too. If the English were noble, would they have allowed this? People in groups do things that they would never do alone. In this atmosphere, that lasted years, I believe they English were doing it too. I also read the English went on a hanging spree, with two-minute trials, and everyone was guilty. Men and women. Watch the video Hellstorm. That info has disappeared from the internet.
And the English and Americans were bombing and Fire bombing every German city every day and night of the war. And those cities were all civilians. The Allies were not good guys. See my latest post The Monumental Murder of Germany
So can you explain why this is propaganda? And if it is propaganda who is it against? anyone has a right to comment? Also what is your background, education, job Wht would you defend such violence against another human being. Period. No excuses human have a serious problem with going it of their territory to harm other human beings . Animals do not so this , leave their territory to harm another animal unless they are starving and looking for food. I want to know where you are coming from???? And it does ent matter who or what that picture is from it is wrong and it is an atrocity to women. Are you going to say she brought that on herself somehow???????
He got the photo wrong but hundreds of thousands and possibly more then a million German women and children did get raped mostly buy soviets but others too, it’s not propaganda it’s true, and your people know all about propaganda.
They didnt say it was just propaganda. Rather, the complaint was about the shoddy 'facts' presented. War is hell on ALL sides so just dont comment unless youve been there. Unwittingly the Jews brought a lot of WWII upon themselves with their Torah and the severe depression of the time. The Nazis brought a lot of it upon themselves with their rabid nationalism and ignoring WWI causes. Take a lot of chill pills and compare that insanity to whats happening today.
Yes, they generally abided by the Torah which tells them to take meanial jobs such as butcher, baker, shoemaker, etc. They also shared among themselves first. Unfortunately this was the rule during WWI and WWII. Germany could ill afford that and repaid their views harshly. Especially Lutherans which held that the Jews were "the killers of Christ". Sadly, war is often the culmination of too many people holding on to strongly held beliefs.
Huh? Your comments are so off base. And exactly how do you explain why the Nazis also exterminated Catholics? Gypsy’s? Don’t reply…am blocking your racist bulls*#t
Gets worse: up to 9 million German civilians starved to death in US-run camps in the years after the war ended. Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950 https://a.co/d/9hy6SEQ
I see that this is the book by James Bacque. I watched an unbiased youtube video that looked at Bacque's estimate of over 1 million deaths in the Rhine Meadows POW camps and although the official figures of only a few thousand are obviously wrong, Bacque's estimates could not be corroborated by any other sources. By diligent investigation of non official sources, it appears that between 40,000 and 60,000 POWs may have died the Rhine Meadows camps. All completely unnecessary in my opinion. Even if die hard nazis had formed guerilla groups they would not have been able to get enough ammunition to do the kind of damage that would have justified the detention of millions of war weary soldiers in atrocious conditions.
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
A lot of them died because they had been fighting for up to 6 years all the while they were starving. By the time these soldiers entered the camps they were full of disease, wounded and again...starving to death. Just because the war was over doesnt mean there was food everywhere now, there were food shortages for quite a while.
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
Charlotte D' Charlatan
The zionists are coming after me in the comment section everywhere 🤡😂😜😭🥱
The charlatan Charlotta propagandizes for the Nazis again, about your Fringe book
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
No, it wasn’t the documentary by Bacque himself, but his work was referred to in the documentary. Now that I know the title of Bacque’s documentary I will look for it on youtube and other sites, so thanks for that reference.
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
Having watched it, I can now see that the claims cannot be dismissed out of hand. Most of the 1.5 million missing German soldiers probably died in Russian POW camps. As an example, out of the 91,000 German soldiers who surrendered at Stalingrad only 5000 ever returned to Germany. I will now buy the book in the hope that it has some post war census data that might corroborate the figure of 6 million civilians allegedly allowed to starve to death during the allied occupation. This revelation shocked me more than anything else because many of them will have been women and children. In Solzhenitsyn’s book The Gulag Archipelago there was a section on census analyses between 1933 and 1953 which showed that the Russian population declined by over 40 million during those 2 decades. If we substract the 27 million who allegedly died during WW2 that gives over 13 million who may have died in the gulags.
Bitte recherchieren Sie zu den Rheinwiesenlagern. Mein Urgroßvater hat ein solches Gefangenenlager überlebt. Vor wenigen Jahren gab es in einen dieser Gebiete ein Hochwasser (Ahrtal) und es wurden viele Leichen deutscher Soldaten hochgespült. Zufällig war dieses überschwemmte Gebiet eine Sperrzone. Weshalb wohl?
Mein Urgroßvater erzählte mir, dass gefangene deutsche Soldaten von den Alliierten massenhaft und willkürlich erschossen wurden. Es gab weder Essen, noch Trinken in den Lagern. Er erzählte mir sogar, dass Amerikaner mit Bulldozern durch die Menge gefahren sind, um Soldaten zu töten. Es hat wohl Freude bereitet.
Ich las vor wenigen Jahren von einem Historiker, der davon ausgeht, dass ca. 1,5 Million gefangene deutsche Soldaten von den Alliierten in den Rheinwiesenlagern ermordet wurden.
Hello Charlotte. Thanks for asking. Bacque’s documentary certainly gave me pause for thought. I will need to buy the book to see whether it includes post war statistical analyses of population trends which corroborate his claims. Solzhenitsyn included such analyses in his book on the Russian gulags. Those showed that there was a net decline in the Russian population of 40 million people between 1933 and 1946. So after we subtract the 27 million who died during WW2 that gives 13 million who died in the gulags. As regards the missing 1.5 million German soldiers I’m pretty sure nearly all of them died in Russian POW camps. As an example, out of the 91,000 German soldiers who surrendered at Stalingrad only 5000 ever returned to Germany. I was nonetheless very disturbed to hear that possibly as many as 6 million civilians may have died during the allied occupation due to a deliberate policy of starvation. The idea is so shocking to me that I can scarcely believe it and would like to see that figure corroborated by census results or consolidated death records from the 4 year occupation period.
I haven’t read the book but the “allies” included the Soviet Union which did indeed kill 10s of millions of people from the occupied territories. I can’t imagine that this happened in the western block countries. But, history is full of surprises.
Read the book. It’s hidden history and for a reason. US troops had orders to shoot people trying to smuggle food into the camps. Camps full of refugees.
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
I’m in QLD , did spend 20 years in NZ . My late Wife was from Southland .both of our Countries are buggered because of Fascist Totalitarianism and Corrupt on the Take Politicians. I used to be on F.B but was banned (my account was Hacked)
Always some retard who's got to bring up Jews on a tangent that has nothing to do with the subject, did you wholeheartedly accept the numbers thrown out in this article of tens of thousands of boys who were anally raped by russians? Yet you're probably the same type of henpecking twat who says did that many really die despite the Nazis keeping records?
To throw out Zionism in the same sentence as communism indicates you are a retarded cunt so fuck off with that
Your imagination is running wild seeing me on YouTube all day, screenshot or it never happened as that's not my username there.
Your name is evocative of charlatan as you propagandize and proselytize for the dark side.
May the skate park that you have constructed between your ears for the happy thriving Jewish families to grind away daily rent-free continue to be fully populated with 80 more generations of Jews.
in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
(Borrowed from a friend)
A little more history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'.
In 132 AD the Emperor Hadrian resolved to stamp the Jews and their religion out of existence. He sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery after the revolt of Bar Kikhba, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem's name to Aelia Capitolina. He renamed Israel to wipe out the national identity of Israel and the Jews.
So if you are looking to 'restore Palestine to the Palestinians', you need to give it back to the Jews.
You're hateful blatherings are transparently false you're propagandizing for the withered Reich is lamentable and provably false . Others are calling you out for being a charlatan and I'm embracing my opportunity to call out your falsity
"Who can challenge the rights of the Jews in Palestine? Good Lord, HISTORICALLY, IT IS REALLY YOUR COUNTRY..."Yusuf Diya al-Khalidi, Arab Mayor of Jerusalem, 1829.
If your Grand Mosque is built on the foundation of the Jewish Temple, I think that says a little something about who was there first.
Yasser Arafat himself said in his biography that "The Palestinians have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them an identity through conflict with Israel "
"Half of us Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis " Statement by Fathi Hammad, Member of the Hamas political bureau and interior minister in the Gaza strip from 2009 to 2014.
I heard one Wehrmacht soldier say when being accused of war crimes, "War has it's own set of rules". Based of of what is happening now all over the world, it isn't like humanity has the capacity to learn anyway. None of these terrible crimes are ok. Ever. We must avoid the conditions for them to happen.
I have faith in humanity. It's the bankers, globalists and neocons that are the problem. And , apparently, post-war has its set of rules too. Those 9 million starved Germans were civilians.
I just watched footage of the Nazis surrendering, majestic times.
All the pain and suffering that they brought upon their own people, the look of disillusionment and defeat upon their faces as they were marched through the streets of Europe.
The third Reich fizzled but 80 generations of Jews are here and thriving in their Homeland.
Recently Germany had to be forced to add Hezbollah to its list of terrorist organizations, it's hard for the bad gentile Gene to be subdued, but their Islamic deflectionism can only go so far as their females are raped their sons are anally sodomized with sticks by gangs of Muslim boys and their cars are stolen and Muslims clogged their streets demanding Sharia for Germany now.
They are deporting but not enough and not fast enough, listen to a podcast today that talked about the return of concentration camps for Europe but this time it will be for the Mohammadeans for even the gentile turns his cheek too often but Islam keeps pushing harder faster deeper and bloodier.
The Yanks Orchestrated the Vietnam War , and yes they knew about the imminent attack on Pearl Harbour. The Dogs of War wanted a piece of the Action. and they wanted Countries indebted to them. Unfortunately we follow the US into their Orchestrated Wars , the only plus is we fight on our own .
Please don't hate all Americans. We are not all war mongers and bullies. But what you say is true. US knew about Pearl Harbour. US took down the Trade Center. Our country was born from genocide of the Native Americans. Slavery, in one form or other, continues to this day. But please don't hate all of us. Many of us spend our entire lives trying to stop the evil greed and ignorance that seems to have hold on our country. I will never understand war, and war's aftermath. I am very sorry and disgusted finding out how the "allies" treatimed women, children and old people. Damage that lasts generations. Terrible. Somehow we have to stop thinking of "us" and "them". Somehow we have to hold accountable the individuals who are doing this. We have to try to be respectful of all life. Come to New York City and you'll find very few people who like Trump... a pedophile and rapist, a greed monger and someone who is going to make Americans really hated everywhere. You'll find many strong women, and men, protesting the genocide in Gaza and speaking for equal rights. Please don't hate us all ... we've got to do better and try to be better human beings. The US has got to do some sort of retribution for our bloody history... and it starts with acknowledging it and never forgetting it. We can be better.
There are Americans over here that really suck. Somehow they land in politics or on-line. Most of those people are seriously racist. Period. And it's a shame and you won't change them. So I hear what your saying about trash talk. Ignore them.
Healthcare.... I totally believe one should stay away from all these pharmaceuticals, too much "pain medication". I try not to take anything. And you have to be very lucky to find a good doctor here. Doctors killed my father and my uncle. They are, for the most part, greedy.
Keep the faith, humanity goes through cycles of enlightenment and ignorance. And your brother will find a place in this world.... we all have to have patience. I'm glad you speak out, your observations are not wrong.
From an American...I am sorry for the ignorant dumbed down masses that fill the streets of this beautiful nation. Most are that way because of the 10th plank of the Communist manifesto. The US is a COMMUNIST country. I have the proof. https://www.courageouslion.us/p/communism-american-style
Bacque's claims have been critically questioned by numerous historians. In particular, his estimate of 5.7 million civilian deaths between 1946 and 1950 finds no support in the historical literature. The German historian Bernd Greiner described this figure as unfounded and linked Bacque's work to the extreme right's efforts to gain mainstream acceptance.
Furthermore, Bacque's methods and conclusions were intensely discussed in academic circles. At a conference of the German Studies Association in Salt Lake City in October 1999, scholars judged the claims made in "Crimes and Mercies" to be even more extreme than those in his previous work, "Other Losses." However, the participants decided not to publish their contributions so as not to draw unnecessary attention to Bacque's theses.
They got what they deserved. After all they elected Hitler and his murderous gang. Goebbels in the bunker told that he did not pity Germans because they were responsible for what happened after they gave a mandate to Hitler !!
German people should have thought twice about what would happen to their children after what they did to other people of the countries they occupied. They profited from all the looting and exploitation of the occupied countries. Russia lost 28 millions people, half of it were civilians. What of the hundred of thousands children , women and elderly starved, killed and murdered by Germans in the destroyed villages, camps and ghettos. What of the rapes of women of these destroyed villages in those countries ?
I think Germans fared rather well after what all the horrible things they committed.
And from what I see now from their political leaders I think they did not learn a thing from the last time they attacked Russia !!
You think it’s just Germans who are the problem? What about Wall Street bankers who financed the Nazi party? Germans didn't elect Hitler to conquer Europe. They just wanted decent lives after the disaster of Weimar, inflicted by the winners of WWI. Blaming millions of civilians is ridiculous.
Yes my Mother told me stories that her aunts were raped and murdered by the incoming Russian troops. She was 13 when she had to flee the Russians. Her part of Germany is now Poland. 😓
My mother, too, was aged 9 when her family fled East Prussia in 1941. She never spoke of that time, other than to say that the family was aboard one of three repurposed passenger liners that wasn’t sunk by Russian torpedoes.
Yes, I’m certain that she would have witnessed these atrocities.
I hope you have a good life, Elke, and are able to make these events so long ago in your family history as part of the woven tapestry of your evolution.
Ooh! My name! My grandparents had stories too. My grandfather came from a small town in the Soviet Union called klimovici. In November of 1941 the German army came and rounded up all the Jews and forced the men to dig a hole. The men, women and children including my great grandparents and their 2 youngest children were forced to strip bare and the women and children were pushed into the pit. The Germans didn’t “waste” bullets on them. The men were lined up on the edge and shot into the pit. How do we know? One of my grandfathers brothers was serving in the Russian army fighting against the Germans and when he came home from the war he found a peasant woman in his parents house. He asked her what happened to his family and she told him. Her next comment was that it was a terrible night because they couldn’t sleep at all because the ground was moving underneath them.
War is created by those that have nothing to lose and everything to gain for it and whoever that is and anyone related to them need dealt with in the harshest way publicly as an example to anyone that would ever even consider benefiting from making us go to war
Indeed. And now it’s clear that the Zionist neocons have their puppets Zelensky and Bibi warmongering for Christian Americans to die, fight and pay for wars in Ukraine, Gaza and Iran. I oppose these neocon wars.
The Islamic deflectionist charlatan charlotamuta bleats and blathers and propagandizes obscuring Truth and denying the atrocities of her fellow travelers.
Charlatans of the synagogue of Satan speak through Charlotte throwing darkness upon the world
Charlotte the spawn of Satan threatens to block me as I knock down her lies
"Who can challenge the rights of the Jews in Palestine? Good Lord, HISTORICALLY, IT IS REALLY YOUR COUNTRY..."Yusuf Diya al-Khalidi, Arab Mayor of Jerusalem, 1829.
If your Grand Mosque is built on the foundation of the Jewish Temple, I think that says a little something about who was there first.
Yasser Arafat himself said in his biography that "The Palestinians have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them an identity through conflict with Israel "
"Half of us Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis " Statement by Fathi Hammad, Member of the Hamas political bureau and interior minister in the Gaza strip from 2009 to 2014.
Complete non-sense. I'm nowhere from the Middle East, and even I can recognise that Turkiye, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan are each separate powers who will not accept domination by the other.
How long will you continue provoking hysteria, because you're a highly-neurotic and intolerant bigot?
History is simply “what happened,” but the narratives we inherit are almost always politically biased. To get a clearer picture, either wait a century for perspectives to settle or apply critical thinking to everything presented as fact—at least 90% of it is distorted.
Doubt that? Look at the history of scientific breakthroughs. Consider Gregor Mendel, Ludwig Boltzmann, and Ignaz Semmelweis—a biologist, a physicist, and a medical doctor. Surely, they were treated with rational, scientific respect? Hardly. Mendel was ignored, Boltzmann was ridiculed and took his own life, and Semmelweis was dismissed as a madman and locked in an asylum. The “scientific process” you were taught is a polished, idealized version of reality.
And that’s science—where claims can be measured and tested. Now apply that to history, where measurement is difficult and experiments can’t be repeated—how reliable do you think those ‘facts’ are?
Think how much more innovation would have been allowed if Church led charlatans had not been suppressing the Jews who thought with all of their brain in search of true knowledge.
The curse of Jew hatred held Europe back and manifested its further Insanity with killing the Jews for surviving the plague because of their inherent hygiene advantage over the dirty pagans and Christians who didn't wash unlike the Jews.
Irrational Christian hatred kept Europe in the dark ages for centuries, after they expelled their Jews they had a 100-year war between the Catholics and the Protestants with Catholics not being welcome in England and Protestants being killed in France what a disputable reckless anti-civilizational movement it is to hate Jews.
The same Christians did inquisitions against Protestants Muslims and Jews withheld scientific progress imprisoned those who blasphemed and said that the Earth was not flat such primitive fuckery.
80 generations later the Jews have survived and continue to thrive in science and culture despite gentiles irrational hatred holding back civilizational progress
Are you on meth with your spelling errors constantly commenting all over substack promoting the Nazi agenda? Nazis like their speed along with their shtupping, I bet you don't like talking about the movie The Pink swastika and the homo sexual culture deeply infused into Germany.
Scheiss porn from Germany is inexplicably popular also.
The only successful civilian protest against Hitler were the gentile women who had married Jewish men and didn't want them taken away. Street protests filled Berlin and Munich and it humiliated the one balled tyrant so much that he gave in and freed those Jews temporarily so as to force all the inevitable shame that he would bring upon Germany through his malevolent anti-human satanic manifestation of Christian genocide.
Weather and biological warfare against civilians. N.W.Order. off grid, unvaccinated, not A.I friendly nor politically believing either side isn't out to Flip the situation.
World War II was created off the back of one man's insane desire to reinstate a fictional fatherland. The failure to rebuild Germany after the totally meaningless First World War was the catalyst for all this. Terrible things were done on all sides, but the Nazis were the bad guys, and the documentary cited is neo-Nazi leaning propaganda, not to be ignored, but to be taken in the round and in context. Hopefully if the world ever sees a maniac attempting to do something like this again, we shut it down, don't capitulate, and certainly don't align.
"no one wants such destruction voluntarily. War is created by those that have nothing to lose and everything to gain" there's some truth to this such as the first world war. But many people do want more whether we like to admit it or not. many people are bloodthirsty especially if they can demonize and villainize their enemies. War was often seen as a good thing and a trial for "manhood" in many cultures throughout the world. through the most uncivilized and barbaric like North American amerindians to far more sophisticated and modern such as the Japanese.
This report and the comments are definitely food for thought. How brainwashed, whitewashed and misinformed we have been about this. History is written by the victors and not to be taken at face value. Germany did not go to war for no good reason, nor did Japan. The ‘liberators’ were not superior beings. My father was a boy in occupied Holland. He told us never to believe all the anti-German propaganda. They were not the monsters we’re ordered to believe of them. War is hell on earth of our own design as a fallen race.
History was written by the biggest hypocrite genocide-monsters of them all: the marxist. My grandmother lived thru the war in occupied Norway. She told me nothing but good stories about the german soldiers. Like shielding her and her little sister with their own bodies in a ditch during and english act of aggression in the skies, that the guards turned their eyes away when her mother did the daily tour along the prisoner-fence, dropping food. EVERYTHING zio/kommie has told about WW2 is a lie! Everything! Commies are full on psychopaths! Watch “Europa: The last battle” on Bitchute, for example..
My father was a young boy in German occupied Holland. He had nothing but good stories about the German soldiers. I grew up listening to my father’s favourite music. German marching songs. I never believed that the Germans were the bad guys.
One point of distinction, although there were rapes committed by the American and British troops it was not the policy of the American or British governments or their militaries and such behavior was not sanctioned, including being an executional offense. Unlike the Soviets, where it was the official government and military policy for their soldiers to rape every German female they could get their hands on irrespective of age. In Berlin alone in the first year after the war ended there were over a hundred thousand abortions performed. The policy of the Soviets was to punish the German people in perpetuity. In 1984 I crossed through Checkpoint Charlie from west to east Berlin and East Berlin was in the same state it had been in the day Berlin fell in ‘45. Bombed out buildings, with the rubble still where the buildings fell, still using the same trolley cars etc. it was literally stepping back in time. The Soviets refused to allow any money be used to rebuild Berlin or even clean it of the rubble.
German soldiers also did their fair share of raping women of the populations they subjugated, however again it was not the policy of the government or military to do so and German soldiers were executed on occasion according to their assignment, regular army vs. SS for example. The regular branches of the military having higher standards of behavior for their men than the SS which used rape as a tool of population compliance but on a much smaller scale since their numbers were fewer. The German Navy even disregarded Hitler’s orders to execute POWs, the officer class of the German Navy was the last remnants of the German aristocracy and held true to their values of honor. And let’s not forget the Japanese military’s rape of Nan King and their sexual enslavement of Korean women.
That's a really good summary. My Hungarian grandmother was terrified of the Russians, even more than the Nazis -- which is saying something because she was hiding my Jewish grandfather from the Nazis. There are always crimes like rape committed during war, but most professional armies do not condon or encourage it as the Soviets (as they were then) did. And the Japanese were just as bad with their treatment of not just Korean but alao Chinese women.
Ike refused to allow train loads of food supplies for the German people. The trains were sent back and the food rotted. Pregnant women often died because their body couldn't support two lives.
The situation didn't improve until Herbert Hoover used his political influence to ensure delivery of food supplies.
American policy although better than that found in the Russian Zone was nonetheless complicit. Through Operation Keelhaul American soldiers forced Germans onto rail trains to Siberian work-to-death camps.
The Rape of Nan King has been thoroughly debunked as propaganda
Oh!! Stalin was a real saint!! He killed more people in his collectivisation drive than the number of WWII deaths. The soviet army stopped advancing before entering Poland and encouraged Polish résistance to come out, waited till the Resistance were decimated to the last man and then entered. His protege, Putin, is responsible for countless deaths in Ukraine and Georgia. Stating historical facts do not make us phobes
May the Jews continue to thrive with their healthy smiling families in Israel and throughout the world and specifically in the skate park between your ears that you've constructed for them to grind away daily, all day everyday mazel tov!
Those who bless Israel will be blessed those who curse Israel will be cursed
Not going to read any Nazi bullshit links from you if you're not an adult enough to copy and paste fuck off with your Islamic deflectionism fuckery
You should watch the pink swastika before you fap for the night
"Who can challenge the rights of the Jews in Palestine? Good Lord, HISTORICALLY, IT IS REALLY YOUR COUNTRY..."Yusuf Diya al-Khalidi, Arab Mayor of Jerusalem, 1829.
If your Grand Mosque is built on the foundation of the Jewish Temple, I think that says a little something about who was there first.
Yasser Arafat himself said in his biography that "The Palestinians have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them an identity through conflict with Israel "
"Half of us Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis " Statement by Fathi Hammad, Member of the Hamas political bureau and interior minister in the Gaza strip from 2009 to 2014.
How is that Islamic deflectionism working out for you Christians represented by blowhards like you yelling at Jews in chat rooms fucking loser
horrifying at the start of 2023 -and now it's far, far worse.
3 million Christians displaced.
55,000 murdered. Over 20,000 churches burned to the ground. Thousands of Christian schools attacked, children raped, kidnapped, and slaughtered. Entire Christian communities wiped off the map. And yet, the world doesn't care. The UN stays silent. The media looks the other way. Because acknowledging this genocide would shatter their lie that Islam is a "religion of peace." Since 2023, the situation has only escalated, but no one is talking about it. How much worse does it have to get before the world finally wakes up?
the Muslims were going western but that didn't fit the bill for the Jews at the top, so they created islamic fundamentalist POWER. it was easy because they had already created Christian fundamentalist POWER in the jUSA, to control the vote. these sinister Jew fucks at the top assassinated all of the moderate Muslim candidates to make sure that only the most radical Muslims came to be in charge of countries whereas formerly they had only been a fringe. Muslims were going to colleges and universities, wearing western cloths, listening to the Beatles etc, feeling groovy, and this was a big threat to the Jews at the top and all of their evil plans. Lots of big organized programs these Jews engineered to destroy the Muslim world. I know every detail of these matters. its all extremely well documented. Alan you are clearly the loser in any debate we might ever have. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/20/how-the-muslim-world-lost-the-freedom-to-choose/
of the first four caliphs were murdered in the seventh century) has not been triggered by despair, neither by the US, nor by Israel. Islamic terrorism has been triggered by the megalomaniacal aspiration to force the Western "infidel" and the Arab "apostate" to submit - unconditionally, peacefully or militarily - to Islam, the only "legitimate" religion, divinely-ordained to rule the world.
Hamas' anti-Western priority
*According to its 1988 covenant, Hamas is a branch of the anti-Western global Islamic terrorism.
*Hamas was established by the Muslim Brotherhood, whose vision is to topple all national Muslim regimes, establish a Quran-based universal society, and bring the "infidel" West to submission, peacefully or militarily.
May the skatepark that you've constructed between your ears for the Jews to grind away daily rent free continue to be fully populated with happy Jewish families thriving in their Homeland after 80th generations and elsewhere in the world wherever they wish.
And may your encounters with barbarians give you the consequences that you deserve in the upcoming diminishing hours of your life
Not Just Germany, but this horror visited them the most out of the areas where Soviets took over. All states where the Soviets took over had massive amounts of rapes of local girls & women. Where I am from, every village has stories of how the Communists came in, going from door to door and trying to take away young girls, married women and raping them or using them as play-things. Some women and men were driven to suicide, or murdered of course if they did not comply.
One of my grandfathers actually told me a story of how they stopped some Russian soldiers and "helped" them down a well, where they perished. They ambushed them one night as they were going to one of the houses where a family of 7 girls lived (mind you, most of their generation had 3-9 children). Since they knew boxing, they ambushed them and made quick work of the Communists. As a resting place they chose a local well, threw them down there and watched as they drowned in agony.
The stories of rape were told in every village, by people who witnessed it first hand. I asked my grandparents about what the Nazis did, in contrast. The answer? Nothing. They repaired a few things in the village(s) and bought supplies, then moved on. No atrocity, no rapes.
I would not have cared about this, had not my friends shared their grandparents' stories, which all were the same. Communists raped and pillaged, Nazis just marched through or helped out / bought stuff.
That is rather quaint, Nazis helped out and bought stuff, what a nice story. Unfortunately facts paint a different picture. If you look into Wikipedia, which is not exactly a source of truth when it comes to political matters, you find things like "Hungerplan" which anticipated the starvation of 10's of millions of civilians because Germany did not have the means to support an army in the field, so they had to live off the land and therefore deprive the populations of food. You find things like "Einsatzgruppen" which were attached to the armies with the intent to eliminate (murder) undesirable elements such as jews, gypsies, and others, and I am sure some people take pride in the efficiency which they displayed in the pursuit of their goals. Then there is the "Kommisarbefehl" which basically removed the Geneva protection from communist functionaries in the Red Army and delivered them to murder - with the help of the Army. These are all things that can be looked up easily and are outside of the laws of war.
Less accessible, but also provable, are simple facts and population statistics - cities in Russia, that were under German occupation for 1 - 2 years, at the end of that time when they were liberated, had perhaps 5 or 10% of the population left, the rest mostly died of hunger, cold, violence on the part of German troops, or perhaps shipped off for slave labor. Velikie Luki is one such example and can be read up on in Wikipedia.
Interestingly, after the Red Army occupied cities in the Reich, the situation was different. I am originally from Austria and even the web site of the Viennese city government (and Wikipedia also) acknowledges that in May 1945, when the war was just ending, the so called "Maispende" (May donation) took place, providing 1000's of tons of wheat and other essentials like fat and sugar. I have not come across anything comparable on the part of the "clean" Wehrmacht providing food assistance to populations in Eastern Europe. And the statistics clearly show that populations in Germany and Austria were stable and did not decline as a result of occupation policy.
So hard for me to believe statements like "Nazis just marched through or helped out / bought stuff"
The Good Guys repatriated Thousands of those Fascist Nazis Scum to go the US because they were Deemed useful. Hitler , Mengele and Co lived out their Lives in STH America. The Rank and File Germans took the back Lash for what those Evil Scum had done .
Reinhard Gehlen, the Hitler SS-Gauleiter responsible for western Ukraine (Galicia), is responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles, Gypsies and political dissidents during the WW Two. He had incorporated the Ukrainian (Stjepan Bandera) and Baltic fascist in the ranks of the SS. After this scum of the earth had to flee from the Red Army, many of them were transferred to the US and Canada. Reinhard Gehlen himself became a US payed CIA agent, tasked to organise an anti-stalin riot at Ukraine which failed and ended 1956. Three hundred thousand more victims were produced under the supervision of the US.
Groupthink. Humans tend to lead (~4%), follow (~80%), or think independently (~16%). Early in the COVID-19 crisis, fear was understandable given the uncertainty. But as more data emerged, a few actors leveraged that fear, leading to extreme and often irrational policies.
Let's assume all this is true. And not a plain Nazi propoganda. But let's put it in context. After Germans kilked 27 millions of Soviet people, burned babies alive in churches. Starved hundreds of thouthands of Leningrad citizens to death, war returned to Germany. And inly then innocent germans felt the rage of subhumans.
Reinhard Gehlen was military intelligence in charge of department of foreign armies east - obviously an abject failure at what he did. He was NOT Gauleiter and not part of the SS either, he was Wehrmacht.
Good call on noticing that picture wasn't from the 1944-1948 period in Germany.
But the post is trying to address the MASSIVE OVERSIGHT regarding heart-wrenching German suffering in the WWII era.
You're right to say that rape is horrible no matter the victim.
But the attention given to Jewish suffering from that period has not been lacking - and I think there are a number of, oh, what shall we call them, errors?, on the part of Jewish historians who have assembled the official WWII narrative.
Was there anything else in the article you cared to comment on?
Speaking of questionable numbers he throws out tens of thousands of boys being anally raped and damaged without any footnotes and then moves on like Europeans were butt banging boys what they had fresh female flesh? That's some out there shit and yet you're bringing up questionable numbers about Jews 🧐
I weep for my people. My grandparents and great-grandparents were forced to flee East Prussia and Silesia. My great-greatgrandma however stayed in Königsberg and died. My grandma’s aunt was raped and committed suicide afterwards. My grandfather never talked about his experiences fleeing as a teenager. I can’t begin to imagine the horrors they saw and felt. All I can do is honor their memory, remember them and heal the pain of losing not only their homes, but also their homeland, nation and national identity. Thank you for this post.
The guy wrote the whole book about the need of mass extermination of nations and somehow the allies (governments which allowed him to take Austria and Czechoslovakia) are still to blame
El Horrible. Nice tag. Thanks. I need to clarify that. Rape is not a crime of sexual desire. It is a crime of violence. I am sure that objects that could reach the colon were sometimes used.
I challenge you to question your assumption that punitive wartime rape doesn't have a sexual desire component. I also challenge your authority to make declarative statements regarding the drive or intention behind sexual violence, especially of such a punitive violent nature. This piece reads as trauma porn and I question what purpose this serves beyond further dehumanizing these women, and women in general.
Punitive wartime rape is a wound the male community needs to address and come to terms with. It is ubiquitous in war, and I personally do not accept that the mass torture and rapes of these women and others throughout history can be dismissed to a temporary stress state these men find themselves in.
Instead of publishing these images, images which the male community seems to obsess over (e.g. rape of Nanking), and claiming that wartime rape doesn't have a sexual drive component I think we need to ask "is this simply what happens when a community of women is left without protection, and men are allowed access to them?"
We have passed the point where posting images of snuff or graphic rape is helpful. Additionally I would urge you to consider that there will absolutely be people who use these images for self pleasure.
I think it isn't SIMPLY what happens when a community of women is left unprotected, though I believe that's part of it. Combat keeps fighting men in a state of very high anxiety and emotional arousal for months on end. Chronic emotional over-arousal isn't good for people's functioning. Just look at the behaviour of over-excited people in other contexts. Impulsiveness and general lack of control typically follow. In adults, sexual arousal can also follow in people who otherwise wouldn't exhibit it inappropriately. It's very difficult to study this scientifically (virtually impossible, really), because the circumstances of war don't permit that.
Nothing about this excuses rape in war or any other circumstance. Rape is repugnant in any circumstances, as far as I'm concerned.
I think it helps when women know just how far men can be pushed.
They have it ordered by admirals
...its about rewriting dna and power over dna of a nation...but now ALL FEMALES GONNA GET PROTECTION FROM SOURCE AND BAD MALES GONNA GET RAPES IN WAR, PORN ETC...AND NO ONE WILL STOP IT AS NO ONE OF YOU MALES STOPPED PORN TO EXIST
This isn't presented as research. There are no citations, and just statements of "fact". Disappointed.
Are you questioning if this occurred? Atrocities from war are buried. Do a little digging on your own.
Heidi, dig a little? That’s neither how journalism nor academia works. Both use references to primary and secondary sources. This article had no ballast, nothing to help it stay upright. It was simply a rant.
How bad was rape in Germany in the post-war period, statistically speaking? No idea. Compared to the Darfur, South Sudan, the Memphis Riots of 1866? Was it merely a result of the heat of battle, or was it institutionalized? Compared to the Rape of Nanking? Compared to Auschwitz?
A smidgen of academic or journalistic integrity would go a long way.
I have not questioned or made light of rape. I have questioned the article.
"That’s neither how journalism nor academia works."
Do you think so?
Both work by seeking for the truth.
You can use names like "statistically", "ballast", "upright", "compare" to give the topic many labels to build distance to it but not the truth.
The truth ist never do anything to anybody that you don't anybody to do to you.
[EDIT: I re-read Bray's original post, and am dis-recommending my own comment below. I read too quickly the first time and ran with an immediate impression that I don't think is legitimate here. --C.M.]
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It's okay to question things, no matter what.
But no one is questioning the occurence of evil acts committed during war. It's likely that physical abuse, destruction, rape, and murder were committed in all wars by the smaller number of vile elements that are present in all armies.
The point here is, for example, that photos are being shown without identification of what they represent. Who's who? What was the context? What actually happened in each? Do any of these represent killings -- wrong as they may be -- of traitors or spies? Is every photo where men are present and women are abused -- is every such photo proof of rape and capricious murder? Automatically? Without any outside explanation of what we're looking at?
And who are the bad guys in these photos? Are these all Russians? Americans? French? Germans? Who are we pinning the blame on in the cases presented here?
Barnett makes an important point. There is no attempt here to identify the source of these photos, nor who are portrayed in them, nor what was going on in any of them, etc.
Without factual information to explain the sad, emotion-laden photos, all that can be done here is to move on in disappointment or else to assume ungrounded conclusions based merely on emotion.
There are books about this subject. If you have the strength to read them But the pictures tell the story. This was happening in broad daylight.
Well, I have no doubt about the ad hoc, personal (or perhaps sometimes sanctioned) evils committed in wars. It's truly sad and disgusting.
One small part of the reason why nations should question and resist any push toward war itself. Most of them haven't been for self-defense anyway but were manipulations for the benefit of higher interests than the world's peoples can even see.
Thanks for the reply.
Am I missing something? Was this posted under the pretext of being journalism or research? If I understand you, people should not post such jarring images unless they are one of those 2 categories? To me, I took it as merely thought-provoking, to unbury a hidden past. And quite frankly, much of, as in almost all of, our history is totally fabricated by the victors. So any research risks merely repeating a claimed story. What I am learning now from extensive reading of history, in the light of new analysis, and people's access to have a voice or share testimonies, photos, etc., that didn't exist just a few years ago, the history of World War II is being rewritten. It's there in plain sight if you care to look, but I'm not about to share hundreds of hours of my reading to update your understanding. It's there if you want to find it, and evolving by the day as more truths emerge. And we can see similar atrocities happening in 2026, very similar indeed. To me, this post does more than enough. It reminds us of what humans are capable of, and secondly, it reminds us that some people are more equal than others, as history like this gets buried, never discussed, while other parts of history are taught repeatedly every week from cradle to grave.
I agree that history is written by the victors and that even major narratives can be falsified and backed up by evidence either fabricated or presented out of context, etc. I agree that WWII was largely misrepresented by the victors, much of that narrative having been founded on flimsy foundations that we're all afraid to question.
But if I use photos without any identification, without any context, photos without any exposition about where or when they were taken or about who's in them, I could make up any number of narratives that more or less match the scenes and claim that the photos back me up.
Having said that, of course it's fine for someone to use photos without footnotes to accompany one's article on a subject. But if it appears as though one is relying on those photos as evidence to support what one is saying, it makes a reader halt and ask for details.
On my original read-through, that's how it struck me. Maybe I should re-read.
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[EDIT LATER: I just re-read the original piece and think I was wrong in pushing the details complaint. I think it was a great post and sincere and based on research the man obviously made. As well, he referenced a documentary on the subject at which we could check evidence ourselves, etc. --C.M.]
Please tell me your not disputing this well documented war crime
You've also got to understand the mind of the western man. A majority of us are circumcised so one of the first sexual experiences we have is being stimulated to erection so we can have a piece of skin with 20,000,000 nerve ending forcibly removed from th glans penis which it is FUSED to. For Jewish boys it's twice as bad. The mohel (A scary stranger with a big beard), while your dad holds down your hands and your grandfather holds down your feet jams a sharpened thumbnail into you urethra and peels the foreskin off. Then cuts it at the base to remove it finishing by sucking the blood off and wrapping it in a rag. Essentially we are ritually abused. At birth for Christians at eight days of age for Jews. So wether we know it or not we are damaged. When your first sexual experience is forced on you and involves likely the greatest pain you'll ever feel often to the point of disassociation there are reprocutions.. I'm not sure if you've heard the phrase "The neurons that fire together wire together. ", but anyone who was circumcised has sex and violence wired together in their mind along with small portions of their brains that were damaged irrevocably from the overstimulation of intense torturous pain. Then they hand you back to mom.
Your explicit description of infant circumcision in sexual terms, and the framing of a medical procedure as a "sexual experience" is deeply inappropriate. You are sexualizing infants and children.
Circumcision is not a sexual experience. It is a medical procedure. Imposing sexual meaning onto routine pediatric care is disturbing and reflects a profoundly inappropriate mindset.
Female genital mutilation is a separate issue and trying to make a parallel between FGM and male circumcision is legitimately a violent act, and an attempt to erase one of the most horrific practices still affecting countless women. These practices are not comparable. People who suffer from FGM or other rape sustained genital mutilation have permanent injuries that cause frequent or constant pain. They are also able to form memories and process this violation which again is not a non invasive medical procedure like western circumcision.
Your argument also reflects a troubling pattern of redefining discomfort or disagreement with medical decisions as "sexual abuse." This dilutes the meaning of actual sexual violence and harms survivors by appropriating their experiences to validate personal grievances. Similar to people equating an uncomfortable Pap smear with rape.
If you have concerns about circumcision practices, address them through appropriate medical and ethical channels and perhaps through advocating within your own cultural group which practices this more than others. But sexualizing children to make your point is unacceptable, and framing a standard medical procedure as sexual trauma is both factually wrong and harmful.
Additionally trying to insinuate that all men are somehow incapable of being held responsible for rape because of repressed trauma in infancy is outrageous and also doesn't hold up since women who are violated as children don't seem to be partaking in punitive wartime rape or mass rape in general.
So in the end our esteemed colleague has shown that she lacks an understanding of natural law (harmful acts that deprive a sentient lifeform of personal autonomy or property.). Objective morality (The medically unnecessary removal of the protective covering of the pleasure center of the sexual organ, knowing that it could cause death, dismemberment, or infection is okay if it's a boy, but an abomination if it's a girl. A cultural bias (The medically unneccessary culturally accepted and sometimes religiously required practice of genital mutilation in American and Israeli cultures is a routine medical procedure. The same in the culture of some African tribes is a violation of bodily autonomy. Essentially what we see here is bigotry toward the male of the species and a disregard for deep seated trauma from birth. Not just the adult male, who is likely her target. I haven't even mentioned military group think or basic training as trauma based mind control yet. Harm is harm. Human beings all process trauma differently. Some go through more than others. This is not a ubiquitous feature of a man's drive to procreate, but a trauma response. It doesn't excuse the actions, but I'm not trying to explain why but how.
1.) You called circumcision a man's first sexual experience and likened normal medical confinement to being held down and raped. You also explained aspects of the ritual circumcision performed by Jews, as if that's relevant to the world population of men as a whole, and insinuating it's also a Christian practice, which it is not. Most normal adults don't want to hear anyone discussing children's erections especially when eroticizing a normal medical practice.
2.) You can argue against circumcision as a practice. What I'm negating is your claim that it's a form of sexual violence and that it causes some core wound in men similar to rape induced PTSD. Just like an uncomfortable Pap smear is not rape, circumcision is not rape.
3.) You're mentioning a one off case of medical abuse following a botched circumcision. Again I'm not pro circumcision I'm against eroticizing normal cultural practices, especially those involving children. If you want to advocate against circumcision that's totally fine, but likening it to rape is unacceptable and a spit in the face to survivors of sexual violence.
4.) Sexual genital mutilation sustained during rape is horrific, women who are FGM sufferers have their clitoris intentionally chopped off completely. That is not what happens in circumcision. It is something grown adult men seek out for cosmetic reasons, it's not a form of torture. FGM is forced torture to destroy a woman's sexual pleasure forever, it also involves sewing the vagina shut. This attempt to parallel circumcision with FGM is another sad attempt low functional low achieving men use to seek sympathy.
5.) There's no global medical consensus against circumcision. U.S. health organizations recognize health benefits, and WHO recommends it for HIV prevention. Your foreskin/clitoral hood comparison is anatomically wrong; removing some foreskin doesn't eliminate sexual function like removing the clitoris does in FGM. There's absolutely no medical literature that will support the claims you're making.
You came into and discussion about punitive wartime rape, specifically about people (falsely) claiming rape doesn't have a sexual component, only to eroticize childhood circumcision and claim circumcision (which you liken to women have their vaginas chopped up by broken glass) is the reason men commit rape.
Rape rates are not lower in countries without circumcision. You're part of a population that makes up .2% of the world citing weird cultural practices everyone else already agrees are weird including normal people within your own community. The connection you're drawing doesn't exist, you're just reaching so hard to excuse men committing rape I'm surprised you haven't pulled your back out.
Circumcision is genital mutilation
You're kind of missing the nuance of the situation. From a neuroprocessing perspective if a system has one purpose the brain processes it's functionality as that kind of stimulus especially if there is absolute 0 frame of reference. So when you add to that the absolute worst pain you will ever feel in your entire life the neurons that process that kind of stimulus wire to the neurons that process intense pain. MRI studies were done on infants undergoing the “procedure “ It showed damage to the parts of the brain linked to trust, reasoning, and emotional processing. Baseline functionality in these areas never returned exhibiting the same patterns as PTSD. Add to that the fact that beating the brakes off of your son throughout childhood was a near ubiquitous phenomenon at the turn of the 20th century. The trauma based mind control and installation of group think mentality in military training along with the stresses of war where death and decay are your constant companions it's unlikely that a few people aren't going to crack completely. Add group think to that and you come up with a real good recipe for a number of warped pathologies. Is wartime gang rape a feature of the male rather than a flaw in their wiring? Not to my reasoning. It's just another symptom of a sick society where people have no respect for harmful VS. Unharmful acts, and an objective morality that shows a flawed understanding of right and wrong.
Sounds like what a degenerate 💩 would say to deflect from his degenerate ways 😖 go back to goitardia🐖💨💨 degenerate 🤏🏿 🪱🕳️
Keep your filth to yourself you cursed mangina🤌🏿🙍🏿♀️🤣
What sexual terms. Stimulate an election. Suck the blood off. There's no other terms to describe it in. That's what the specific practitioners do. To someone incapable of consenting to a medical procedure or a sex act. Violating a person's bodily autonomy is wrong at any age. At this point what's your stance on abortion? Let me guess, "My body. My choice.". Where's his choice in the matter.
Gotta love autocorrect. I'm just saying that any medical association outside the US or Israel has marked circumcision as a barbaric act with no medical necessity that violates the bodily autonomy of someone incapable of saying no or defending themselves. Given a vast global consensus I tend to agree seeing as the foreskin serves an analogous purpose to the clitoral hood. Your double standards are laughable. Also children bleed out, have their glans cut off, or their penis bunt to ablation from little mishaps. One of these mishaps happened to one of a set of twins which built the beginnings of Trans theory. Psychiatrist John Money then psychologically abused the two boys attempting to transition the injured one to female. Money called his work a success. Her brother died of a heroine overdose, and he goes by the name David.
Male circumcision is practiced by certain religions the world over because of gods covenant with Abraham. It has nothing to do with the government of Israel or the United States. Jews and Muslims alike circumcise their childrean as do many others for their own reasons. Tell you this, I'd rather circumcise an 8 day old, yell mazel tov and have a bagel and lox, then circumcise a 30 year old for the various medical conditions that can pop up.
A majority of Americans are circumcised. In normal western countries it's pretty much only done by Jews and Muslims.
This was one of the reasons I found reasonable to leave the country and give birth elsewhere. This is very likely in the hospital with a forced hep B shot and vit K given to a baby by the nurse without mothers consent. Check South Korea too where I heard that most mothers dont just pick up and leave over this.
Thankyou
I think, any valid information, as it pertains to the "defeated" in any warfare is welcome. You cannot use the logic " what Hitler did to us, makes this inevitable". Remember Japan got two nuclear bombs for one Pearl Harbor! Justifiable, as it saved millions of lives on both sides.
It is indeed a crime of violence, and the risk stats underline that. Men convicted of rape do not have an increased risk of future sexual offences, compared with other prisoners, but they DO have an increased risk of future violence offences. Their previous records also reflect that. In other words, they are men who can't take No for an answer.
Source?
Some classic studies looked at this:
Hanson, R. K., & Bussière, M. T. (1998). Predicting relapse: A meta-analysis of sexual offender recidivism studies. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 66(2), 348-362.
Hanson, R. K., & Morton-Bourgon, K. E. (2004). Predictors of sexual recidivism: An updated meta-analysis. Toronto, Ontario.
Both of these were Canadian government documents, and freely available from its website.
Similar results for juvenile sex offenders were found by McCann and Lussier. (2008). Antisociality, Sexual Deviance, and Sexual Reoffending in Juvenile Sex Offenders: a meta-analytical investigation. Youth Violence and Juvenile Justice, 6, 363-385.
A number of studies have noted that rape isn’t a single offence type. For example, some rapists have a deviant interest in children, or in sadism. These are more likely to commit further sex offences, while for rapists as a whole the degree of violence used in their offence is not predictive. They often reoffend, but not usually for a further rape offence. There's a strong element of general antisociality in rapists, so they tend to commit other kinds of offence as well. Those with specialised deviant interests are less likely to do so.
A colleague, who used to be the Crime Reduction Commissioner for SE England, states that the risk of further rape is higher amongst those ACQUITTED of rape than it is amongst those convicted of it. He didn't give me a source, and I wasn't that interested in the topic at the time, but he is not given to making such statements without evidence.
I hope this is of interest.
These citations have nothing to do with the 1944-48 post war period of occupation in Germany.
True, and they weren't meant to. They were in response to further comments about the nature of rape generally, not specifically about the occupation period in Germany.
Acquittal? Acquittal is part of the process. It is a structural safeguard to ensure defendants are not steamrolled by the state.
Acquittal is not a thumbs up to crime it is no more proof of innocence than a missed shot is proof the shooter never pulled the trigger.
You obviously don’t know what blitz means.
Hi Martin. Doesn’t blitz mean a fast charge?
It means “lightning”
Ze germans used the words “blitz-krieg” for their new, fast war-tactics. Lightning-war.
Yes, indeed and it was a central term of the Nazi propaganda especially in the first years of WWII.
The British army has burned alive resistance fighters in Cyprus, the Queen refused to pardon a 17 year old Cypriot boy for being a terrorist, in other words fighting for the liberation of Cyprus, and he was hanged but I'm sure the British are not monsters.
If you ever manage to pull your head out of your arsehole, you’ll learn that the Royal Air Force bombed German cities and towns before the Luftwaffe reacted in kind!
https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/what-were-the-baedeker-raids
So the fucking arsehole that you are believes that raping German women by the Allied and Soviet soldiers was justified, because of the Blitz??!! 🖕
As for why England bankrupted itself to wage another war on Germany, here’s a clue: it wasn’t Fascism!
“You must understand that this war is not against Hitler or National Socialism, but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all, regardless of whether it is in the hands of Hitler or a Jesuit priest”
Winston Churchill
https://www.azquotes.com/quote/578612
It's the blood lust of evil personified.
I have no idea if it occurred. Research citations aren’t my responsibility.
Things can be to thing.
My mom was a German teenager and also raped during WWII. Unfortunately, PTS was not really known then as it is now. My mom and dad’s generation didn’t know how to seek the help they needed. She came to America through Ellis Island and suffered as an immigrant from Nazi Germany even though she became a United States Citizen. She was so proud that accomplishment. Anna Anita Hildegard Sparwasser suffered in silence most of her life because of what she lived through in Germany. My grandmother suffered through two wars as a German citizen. I hate war, it affects the children, the children’s children up to 3-4 generations.
Thanks you for sharing, Lynda
Thanks for sharing. My grandfather was murdered in WW2 and after 3 generations we still experience the trauma’s of this in our Dutch family.
And yet any German who could build a rocket was welcomed
Yes, US put them in positions in the CIA and allowed them to continue their work in Germany. It wasn’t only rockets they were interested in.
If you want an interesting read on the matter, the "German Wife" by Kelly Rimmer - fiction but probably a sense of truth.
But equally if the US hadn't had Op. Paperclip then those same scientists would have ended up building rockets for Russia. The world is an imperfect place and often the choices that are made aren't right. They are just the least wrong.
Tnx for sharing. My dad was a 17 year old Berliner (German Dad, Polish Mom) that was in the Battle of Berlin direct from his anti-aircraft "high school" in Berlin. I am gen X, grew up in California...and got fed up and truth bombed all my older family relatives that tried to pretend this thing did not happen. This did not make more popular in the SF Bay Area but I stopped giving a damn...I actually met some others throughout the years that understand the SITREP of the time.
The biggest mistake we’ve made in the last 150 years was getting involved in WWI in 1917. Every foreign involvement after that folly has been avoidable.
And as far as I’m concerned, the people responsible for that folly were infected with European ideas.
We should have watched from a distance snd let WWI play out just as the majority of ordinary Americans wanted.
Agree UK should’ve made a deal with Hitler and stood away while the Nazis and Italians ( Spain would’ve joined ) took on Russia and we supplied the arms as part of the deal. America was falling apart and dying from its own stupidity with no work food or Any way out of the depression. Britain would’ve waited whilst we developed the Bomb then when Germany were exhausted took them over and produced parliament to all the nations and Queen Elizabeth 2 would’ve ruled them All 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Except that Germany was also developing the bomb and a delivery system in the V2 with a 2nd stage that could not only destroy the UK but also the eastern seaboard of the USA.
Maybe a nuclear weapon could have been produced by the USA prior to Germany getting it but the timing would have been very close and the consequences far reaching.
Deutschland hat die Wasserstoffbomben bereits vor dem Waffenstillstand gebaut. Sie wurden nur nicht eingesetzt.
Die Geschichte um Oppenheimer ist ein tolles Material, um Propagandafilme im US-Kino zu zeigen und den Leuten zu erzählen, dass die Atombombe von den Amerikanern gebaut wurde. Aber das ist eine Lüge. Wenn man sich anschaut, welche Wissenschaftler durch Paperclip nach Übersee gebracht wurden, stellt man fest, dass es nur die zweite oder dritte Garde war. Die erste Garde war schon lange abgetaucht.
Germany’s crackpot philosophies contaminated America in the nineteenth century. Their nonsense did a lot of damage.
And twice in a generation, our boys had to cross the Atlantic to save Europe from its own degeneracy.
War is hell.
That’s why intelligent people go to lengths to avoid it.
The German people did not have to choose war,
They did it voluntarily.
I doubt they’ve learned anything.
Yes, but which particular group from Germany pushed their ‘crackpot’ philosophies and have now contaminated the West and infiltrated every institution/politics/media/medicine/TV/films. That’s right, the ones you can never criticise!!
I can’t criticize?
I can’t criticize Hegel, Marx or Schleiermacher?
I can’t criticize German universities that not very aware Americans sent their sons to?
That’s where we got progressivism from.
That’s where we got God denying church leaders from.
That’s where we got elites who said that our constitution is no longer relevant from.
A lot of bad ideas came out of Germany - and the Americans lapped them up greedily. Along with many other bad ideas coming out of England and America (from Charles "We are nothing but animals" Darwin and John "Progressive education" Dewey.
Dewey.
As I understand it, Dewey was a progressive.
Also, as I understand, progressive ideas were absorbed by the sons of wealthy Americans while attending university in Germany in the nineteenth century.
Meaning, Dewey’s ideas were German imports.
You may very well be right. Dewey could have been influenced by German ideas. Now that I think about it, there may be close parallels with his ideas and the German public educational system.
On the other hand, we can't blame the entire secularist movement on the Germans. There were home-grown elements, and the turning away from traditional religion was a general Western phenomenon.
I really doubt it was the German "philosophies" that contaminated America. I suspect and suggest that it was/is the escaped Nazis who made it to the Americas after the war. Of the over 80,000 Nazis who actually committed the atrocities of WW2, less than 200 were held accountable in the Nuremburg Trials. The rest escaped Germany and went to other countries where they hid like the cowards they really were. Considering the law of averages, it's no stretch to suspect that a significant number made it to US, hid in plain sight, married and passed their hateful ideology onto their children and grandchildren. (I suspect Mrs. Alito is the offspring of an escaped Nazi considering her public ethnic claim and threat.) Hence, when PAB gave the whistle, there was an increased public display of the white supremacist groups, public threats and shootings and the infiltration of law enforcement by white supremacists. They all came out from under their rocks. In the required annual FBI report to Congress in 2020 (which was delayed), the greatest threat was determined to be domestic terrorism with support of white supremacist groups.
BUT as far as the average German, the baker, the housefrau, the cobbler, the biermeister i.e. the common people, they were as deluded as the MagHags here are. They were targeted and overwhelmed by propaganda by the Nazis (just like mainstream media is trying to overwhelm US now with nothing but PAB crap on the world stage--Meanwhile, ICE, DOJ, Eloon, etc. continue their attacks on groups and families). As the Nazis seized power, they realized they had to have the support of the German people; i.e. the people had to be convinced that everything they were proposing was all right, was LEGAL. Until then the German judiciary was considered a worldwide standard, i.e. organized, fair, civil rights respected, fair and logical constitution, etc. Within 30 days of Hitler's becoming Chancellor, the courts passed over 130 laws legalizing the persecution and murder of Jews and other 'undesirables'; it became daily occurrences to see Jews gathered for deportation, their properties seized, etc. by local law enforcement. Extraordinary powers were given to local authorities and they also benefitted from the seizure of properties and sudden business opportunities.
I highly recommend viewing the documentary, "Hitler's Courts" which describes the timeline and chronicles the atrocities of the Nazis as they invaded and corrupted the German judiciary and overwhelmed the common German with propaganda. Also consider the Potsdam Agreement that formally adjudicated that the German people as a whole were responsible for Hitler and Nazi atrocities, whether they fought in the army or not. Or research the massive expulsion of ethnic Germans and even German-speaking people from countries in Europe. Tens of thousands of Germans were rounded up and sent back to Germany. Those who traveled by railroad very often rode on the same routes as trains did to the concentration camps, some even in the same cars. Of those who traveled by foot, many groups were ambushed and machine-gunned down en masse, their bodies pushed into ditches and left to rot. NO ONE ESCAPED THE HORRORS OF WW2 and its aftermath. I'm NOT trying to sanction the actions of the PAB supporters at all; I'm saying consider how you can protect yourself and your loved ones from this dangerous, creeping brutality; ask yourself what are you willing to do to stop it?
Know this: we are NOT alone in our protests, Folks. There is an increase of protests worldwide against authoritarian and non-democratic government actions: Serbia, Georgia, Hungary and Turkey, to name several. Go out to independent media sources and see for yourselves; use DuckDuckGo.com or gibiru.com as your search engines, avoid google and its skewed algorithms and ads. Search out YouTube channels from other countries; you may be surprised at how many are in English and even more surprised at their perspectives. BUT also search out the compassionate and non-political channels, create a place where you can listen to music or watch animals, be educated on gardening 'hacks', be soothed by sounds and sights that mainstream media is denying US now. You still have the right and ability to choose; some countries don't have that option. <Fin>
I'm not sure that we are both talking about the same things here.
1. Democrats are hostile to the best interests of the American people. Their attempts at portraying patriotic Americans as terrorists and so-called domestic extremists is a perfect example of the propagandizing attempts of the Nazis.
2. The only connection between my "crack pot German ideas" comment and the Nazis is that Nazism was an outgrowth that environment. I was referring to ideas of Schleiermacher, Marx, Engels and Hegel. The whole notion of historicity is secularist superstition.
3. According to what I've been reading about totalitarianism, it is a mass psychology phenomenon. The Nazis did not invent German totalitarianism, they merely bubbled to the top of a pre-existing totalitarian wave and led it. We are seeing the same mass psychology phenomenon now in this country and it probably eventuate pretty much the same way.
William Tecumseh Sherman said that war is hell because it is hell. It has been gross stupidity in the 20th and 21st centuries that war has been portrayed otherwise.
Ukraine is a good example of a war that is desirable for people who don't fight in the front lines and see the slaughter.
America's involvement in the world wars, Korea, Vietnam and probably the rest has been stupidity since we could have done better by avoiding those wars.
This translation into English could be better.
I heard that my great grandfather worked with a German in his machine shop in Liverpool. The German was always bragging about Germany’s destiny and how it would show up Britain. That was the spirit in Germany at the end of the nineteenth century. I wonder if they’ve changed at all.
Agree, the war last for generations. Many of us experience it.
I grew up in California but I could see my dad sink into a depressed state over WW2 which is why I did not bring it up that much other than to ask what is like to grow up in WW2 Berlin, 1928-1945. That entire story on that side of the family was one big Debby Downer. It's basically how he ended up in the USA. I spent 20 years in US Military where the one war that is consistently celebrated....except it is the one war not celebrated in my home growing up. However, I did end up meeting other Germans with the same dry dark sense of humor. For example...we used to do this thing called the "German Dance" in night clubs in SF back in the 90s. It is the one where you get hit with like 100 bullets in a movie but your body is just spinning around and around before falling. Then one British guy gets nicked in the shoulder and the music starts up and he is like "OY MATE, I'VE BEEN SHOT!". We would laugh and be like "GREAT JOB BRO...YOU JUST SLAUGHTERED LIKE 100 WHITE GENTILES, YOU MUST FEEL SO PROUD!"
I know that this doesn't erase the pain your mom has gone through but I am sorry she had to go through it. I hope she's doing well now! And I am glad that she has someone like you to rely on.
My deepest condolences. It breaks my heart
I’m so sorry this happened to so many innocent souls. Have we learned nothing?
Thanks for Sharing Lynda. Bless you and your family. Praying for healing 🙏
Thank you, Becky.
The woman in the white underwear, running and screaming is Jewish. The photograph is from the pogrom of Lvyv 1941. At least use proper pictures for your disgusting propaganda.
Yes, I was informed of that. But two wrongs don't make a right. It's not propaganda
It is once you use wrong pictures…
I really can’t believe some German people and it seems many women can continue to lack empathy for her sisters. They deserve this and that. No, no one deserves to be raped and tortured.
People act like suffering is only wrong if it’s convenient to the historical narrative.
There weren't many Jewish women left when the Russians came. Most of them were either shot, beaten or gassed to death by the kind, cultured and civilized Germans.
Whereas the Germans women laughed and applauded. Some even profited from these crimes
Bist du etwa... dumm?
It's 100% propaganda. Context matters.
it was far worse. Western troops raped German women in large numbers too.
What goes around comes around
And it’s the women who always pay, coming and going.
There were women guards in Nazi concentration camps too. Ever heard of ilse Koch ? She collected lamp shades made of human tattooed skin…
now THAT'S propaganda
Always? Over 8 million Russian men were killed during WW II. Or don't they count?
Not my point. Yes, women can be horrible human beings. Yes, men count too. And yes, war rape is a thing. I could have also said, children pay for war, coming and going. That would have been even more true.
Why even label? Everyone pays.
M not sure that English troops carried out these atrocities. They were governed by very strict Marshall’s in all three services land air and sea. The pictures are horrific but I don’t trust the context you are giving. One of the pictures has already been ‘called out’ as that of a Jewish woman caught up in a pogrom.
Hi Darryl. Fair question. The evidence is overwhelming that the Russians were ordered to rape. A look at the American soldiers, all smiling, as two women were being abused, tells me they were doing it too. If the English were noble, would they have allowed this? People in groups do things that they would never do alone. In this atmosphere, that lasted years, I believe they English were doing it too. I also read the English went on a hanging spree, with two-minute trials, and everyone was guilty. Men and women. Watch the video Hellstorm. That info has disappeared from the internet.
And the English and Americans were bombing and Fire bombing every German city every day and night of the war. And those cities were all civilians. The Allies were not good guys. See my latest post The Monumental Murder of Germany
So even though you’ve already been informed you’ve kept the bogus image in the piece. That says everything about your motives
We are witnessing the mass rape and torture by the Zionist fascist forces right now. I look forward to your coverage of that.
German men should
So can you explain why this is propaganda? And if it is propaganda who is it against? anyone has a right to comment? Also what is your background, education, job Wht would you defend such violence against another human being. Period. No excuses human have a serious problem with going it of their territory to harm other human beings . Animals do not so this , leave their territory to harm another animal unless they are starving and looking for food. I want to know where you are coming from???? And it does ent matter who or what that picture is from it is wrong and it is an atrocity to women. Are you going to say she brought that on herself somehow???????
Propaganda?
Lol
He got the photo wrong but hundreds of thousands and possibly more then a million German women and children did get raped mostly buy soviets but others too, it’s not propaganda it’s true, and your people know all about propaganda.
Banderite pogrom?
Thank you!
Thank you.
Nazi propaganda strikes again.
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They didnt say it was just propaganda. Rather, the complaint was about the shoddy 'facts' presented. War is hell on ALL sides so just dont comment unless youve been there. Unwittingly the Jews brought a lot of WWII upon themselves with their Torah and the severe depression of the time. The Nazis brought a lot of it upon themselves with their rabid nationalism and ignoring WWI causes. Take a lot of chill pills and compare that insanity to whats happening today.
Really??? The Jews brought it upon themselves?????🤬😡
Yes, they generally abided by the Torah which tells them to take meanial jobs such as butcher, baker, shoemaker, etc. They also shared among themselves first. Unfortunately this was the rule during WWI and WWII. Germany could ill afford that and repaid their views harshly. Especially Lutherans which held that the Jews were "the killers of Christ". Sadly, war is often the culmination of too many people holding on to strongly held beliefs.
Huh? Your comments are so off base. And exactly how do you explain why the Nazis also exterminated Catholics? Gypsy’s? Don’t reply…am blocking your racist bulls*#t
Are you completely bonkers? Where in the Torah does it say to take menial jobs??
And in what world does this “crime “ mean that they deserve gas chambers??
Wow, nothing like blaming the victims. Let's see how your tune change when you fascist get your rewards.
FAFO
The smiling soldiers in the 1st pic are US Army, not Russian or Czech.
their "left wing beliefs" were the foundations under Bolshevism - ironic really, eh?
Gets worse: up to 9 million German civilians starved to death in US-run camps in the years after the war ended. Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950 https://a.co/d/9hy6SEQ
I see that this is the book by James Bacque. I watched an unbiased youtube video that looked at Bacque's estimate of over 1 million deaths in the Rhine Meadows POW camps and although the official figures of only a few thousand are obviously wrong, Bacque's estimates could not be corroborated by any other sources. By diligent investigation of non official sources, it appears that between 40,000 and 60,000 POWs may have died the Rhine Meadows camps. All completely unnecessary in my opinion. Even if die hard nazis had formed guerilla groups they would not have been able to get enough ammunition to do the kind of damage that would have justified the detention of millions of war weary soldiers in atrocious conditions.
Bacque's book is about civilian refugees, not POWs.
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
The book is well documented and sourced.
A lot of them died because they had been fighting for up to 6 years all the while they were starving. By the time these soldiers entered the camps they were full of disease, wounded and again...starving to death. Just because the war was over doesnt mean there was food everywhere now, there were food shortages for quite a while.
That last sentence has a lot of hindsight bias. The last time all the German soldiers went straight home it cause a lot of problems down the road.
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
Charlotte D' Charlatan
The zionists are coming after me in the comment section everywhere 🤡😂😜😭🥱
The charlatan Charlotta propagandizes for the Nazis again, about your Fringe book
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
The charlatan blathers defeatedly, Klafte called out
😜😂👀🥱😭😵💫🤯🤏
No, it wasn’t the documentary by Bacque himself, but his work was referred to in the documentary. Now that I know the title of Bacque’s documentary I will look for it on youtube and other sites, so thanks for that reference.
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
I will. Thank you Charlotte
Having watched it, I can now see that the claims cannot be dismissed out of hand. Most of the 1.5 million missing German soldiers probably died in Russian POW camps. As an example, out of the 91,000 German soldiers who surrendered at Stalingrad only 5000 ever returned to Germany. I will now buy the book in the hope that it has some post war census data that might corroborate the figure of 6 million civilians allegedly allowed to starve to death during the allied occupation. This revelation shocked me more than anything else because many of them will have been women and children. In Solzhenitsyn’s book The Gulag Archipelago there was a section on census analyses between 1933 and 1953 which showed that the Russian population declined by over 40 million during those 2 decades. If we substract the 27 million who allegedly died during WW2 that gives over 13 million who may have died in the gulags.
Bitte recherchieren Sie zu den Rheinwiesenlagern. Mein Urgroßvater hat ein solches Gefangenenlager überlebt. Vor wenigen Jahren gab es in einen dieser Gebiete ein Hochwasser (Ahrtal) und es wurden viele Leichen deutscher Soldaten hochgespült. Zufällig war dieses überschwemmte Gebiet eine Sperrzone. Weshalb wohl?
Mein Urgroßvater erzählte mir, dass gefangene deutsche Soldaten von den Alliierten massenhaft und willkürlich erschossen wurden. Es gab weder Essen, noch Trinken in den Lagern. Er erzählte mir sogar, dass Amerikaner mit Bulldozern durch die Menge gefahren sind, um Soldaten zu töten. Es hat wohl Freude bereitet.
Ich las vor wenigen Jahren von einem Historiker, der davon ausgeht, dass ca. 1,5 Million gefangene deutsche Soldaten von den Alliierten in den Rheinwiesenlagern ermordet wurden.
Thanks for the link. I will watch it in its entirety later today.
Hello Charlotte. Thanks for asking. Bacque’s documentary certainly gave me pause for thought. I will need to buy the book to see whether it includes post war statistical analyses of population trends which corroborate his claims. Solzhenitsyn included such analyses in his book on the Russian gulags. Those showed that there was a net decline in the Russian population of 40 million people between 1933 and 1946. So after we subtract the 27 million who died during WW2 that gives 13 million who died in the gulags. As regards the missing 1.5 million German soldiers I’m pretty sure nearly all of them died in Russian POW camps. As an example, out of the 91,000 German soldiers who surrendered at Stalingrad only 5000 ever returned to Germany. I was nonetheless very disturbed to hear that possibly as many as 6 million civilians may have died during the allied occupation due to a deliberate policy of starvation. The idea is so shocking to me that I can scarcely believe it and would like to see that figure corroborated by census results or consolidated death records from the 4 year occupation period.
I haven’t read the book but the “allies” included the Soviet Union which did indeed kill 10s of millions of people from the occupied territories. I can’t imagine that this happened in the western block countries. But, history is full of surprises.
Read the book. It’s hidden history and for a reason. US troops had orders to shoot people trying to smuggle food into the camps. Camps full of refugees.
Be skeptical of products promoted by charlatans
I meant Charlotte sorry
Stephen Ambrose, a historian enlisted by the Eisenhower Center for American Studies in 1990 in efforts to preserve Eisenhower's legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, and seven other American historians examined the book soon after its publication and concluded that it was inaccurate and pseudohistory. Other historians, including the former senior historian of the United States Army Center of Military History, Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, who was involved in the 1945 investigations into the allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops in Germany and who wrote the book's foreword, argue that the claims are accurate
I’m in QLD , did spend 20 years in NZ . My late Wife was from Southland .both of our Countries are buggered because of Fascist Totalitarianism and Corrupt on the Take Politicians. I used to be on F.B but was banned (my account was Hacked)
You should be able to get back on FB Norm
Always some retard who's got to bring up Jews on a tangent that has nothing to do with the subject, did you wholeheartedly accept the numbers thrown out in this article of tens of thousands of boys who were anally raped by russians? Yet you're probably the same type of henpecking twat who says did that many really die despite the Nazis keeping records?
To throw out Zionism in the same sentence as communism indicates you are a retarded cunt so fuck off with that
Your imagination is running wild seeing me on YouTube all day, screenshot or it never happened as that's not my username there.
Your name is evocative of charlatan as you propagandize and proselytize for the dark side.
May the skate park that you have constructed between your ears for the happy thriving Jewish families to grind away daily rent-free continue to be fully populated with 80 more generations of Jews.
in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
(Borrowed from a friend)
A little more history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'.
In 132 AD the Emperor Hadrian resolved to stamp the Jews and their religion out of existence. He sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery after the revolt of Bar Kikhba, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem's name to Aelia Capitolina. He renamed Israel to wipe out the national identity of Israel and the Jews.
So if you are looking to 'restore Palestine to the Palestinians', you need to give it back to the Jews.
Charlatans don't get to scold me
You're hateful blatherings are transparently false you're propagandizing for the withered Reich is lamentable and provably false . Others are calling you out for being a charlatan and I'm embracing my opportunity to call out your falsity
"Who can challenge the rights of the Jews in Palestine? Good Lord, HISTORICALLY, IT IS REALLY YOUR COUNTRY..."Yusuf Diya al-Khalidi, Arab Mayor of Jerusalem, 1829.
If your Grand Mosque is built on the foundation of the Jewish Temple, I think that says a little something about who was there first.
Yasser Arafat himself said in his biography that "The Palestinians have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them an identity through conflict with Israel "
"Half of us Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis " Statement by Fathi Hammad, Member of the Hamas political bureau and interior minister in the Gaza strip from 2009 to 2014.
I heard one Wehrmacht soldier say when being accused of war crimes, "War has it's own set of rules". Based of of what is happening now all over the world, it isn't like humanity has the capacity to learn anyway. None of these terrible crimes are ok. Ever. We must avoid the conditions for them to happen.
I have faith in humanity. It's the bankers, globalists and neocons that are the problem. And , apparently, post-war has its set of rules too. Those 9 million starved Germans were civilians.
I just watched footage of the Nazis surrendering, majestic times.
All the pain and suffering that they brought upon their own people, the look of disillusionment and defeat upon their faces as they were marched through the streets of Europe.
The third Reich fizzled but 80 generations of Jews are here and thriving in their Homeland.
Recently Germany had to be forced to add Hezbollah to its list of terrorist organizations, it's hard for the bad gentile Gene to be subdued, but their Islamic deflectionism can only go so far as their females are raped their sons are anally sodomized with sticks by gangs of Muslim boys and their cars are stolen and Muslims clogged their streets demanding Sharia for Germany now.
They are deporting but not enough and not fast enough, listen to a podcast today that talked about the return of concentration camps for Europe but this time it will be for the Mohammadeans for even the gentile turns his cheek too often but Islam keeps pushing harder faster deeper and bloodier.
https://www.courageouslion.us/p/there-is-a-reason-they-dont-listen
True , maybe the Yanks want to ignore that . Where ever the US have stuck their noses the Woman Cop it .
The Yanks Orchestrated the Vietnam War , and yes they knew about the imminent attack on Pearl Harbour. The Dogs of War wanted a piece of the Action. and they wanted Countries indebted to them. Unfortunately we follow the US into their Orchestrated Wars , the only plus is we fight on our own .
Please don't hate all Americans. We are not all war mongers and bullies. But what you say is true. US knew about Pearl Harbour. US took down the Trade Center. Our country was born from genocide of the Native Americans. Slavery, in one form or other, continues to this day. But please don't hate all of us. Many of us spend our entire lives trying to stop the evil greed and ignorance that seems to have hold on our country. I will never understand war, and war's aftermath. I am very sorry and disgusted finding out how the "allies" treatimed women, children and old people. Damage that lasts generations. Terrible. Somehow we have to stop thinking of "us" and "them". Somehow we have to hold accountable the individuals who are doing this. We have to try to be respectful of all life. Come to New York City and you'll find very few people who like Trump... a pedophile and rapist, a greed monger and someone who is going to make Americans really hated everywhere. You'll find many strong women, and men, protesting the genocide in Gaza and speaking for equal rights. Please don't hate us all ... we've got to do better and try to be better human beings. The US has got to do some sort of retribution for our bloody history... and it starts with acknowledging it and never forgetting it. We can be better.
A couple of things....
There are Americans over here that really suck. Somehow they land in politics or on-line. Most of those people are seriously racist. Period. And it's a shame and you won't change them. So I hear what your saying about trash talk. Ignore them.
Healthcare.... I totally believe one should stay away from all these pharmaceuticals, too much "pain medication". I try not to take anything. And you have to be very lucky to find a good doctor here. Doctors killed my father and my uncle. They are, for the most part, greedy.
Keep the faith, humanity goes through cycles of enlightenment and ignorance. And your brother will find a place in this world.... we all have to have patience. I'm glad you speak out, your observations are not wrong.
From an American...I am sorry for the ignorant dumbed down masses that fill the streets of this beautiful nation. Most are that way because of the 10th plank of the Communist manifesto. The US is a COMMUNIST country. I have the proof. https://www.courageouslion.us/p/communism-american-style
And as for the military? https://www.courageouslion.us/p/maybe-we-should-call-it-freedumb
Link won't work for me. SURPRISE!!
That source is incorrect as Germany didn’t lose 6 million soldiers in the entire war
Bullshit, you’re a dummy if you believe that nonsense, there was like a million imprisoned and I think patten let them out
I cited a source and yours is “I think.“ And I’m the dummy?
Spare us!
Utter rubbish.
Lie.
Bacque's claims have been critically questioned by numerous historians. In particular, his estimate of 5.7 million civilian deaths between 1946 and 1950 finds no support in the historical literature. The German historian Bernd Greiner described this figure as unfounded and linked Bacque's work to the extreme right's efforts to gain mainstream acceptance.
Furthermore, Bacque's methods and conclusions were intensely discussed in academic circles. At a conference of the German Studies Association in Salt Lake City in October 1999, scholars judged the claims made in "Crimes and Mercies" to be even more extreme than those in his previous work, "Other Losses." However, the participants decided not to publish their contributions so as not to draw unnecessary attention to Bacque's theses.
They got what they deserved. After all they elected Hitler and his murderous gang. Goebbels in the bunker told that he did not pity Germans because they were responsible for what happened after they gave a mandate to Hitler !!
Including the children? But who can argue with Goebbels?
German people should have thought twice about what would happen to their children after what they did to other people of the countries they occupied. They profited from all the looting and exploitation of the occupied countries. Russia lost 28 millions people, half of it were civilians. What of the hundred of thousands children , women and elderly starved, killed and murdered by Germans in the destroyed villages, camps and ghettos. What of the rapes of women of these destroyed villages in those countries ?
I think Germans fared rather well after what all the horrible things they committed.
And from what I see now from their political leaders I think they did not learn a thing from the last time they attacked Russia !!
You think it’s just Germans who are the problem? What about Wall Street bankers who financed the Nazi party? Germans didn't elect Hitler to conquer Europe. They just wanted decent lives after the disaster of Weimar, inflicted by the winners of WWI. Blaming millions of civilians is ridiculous.
Just by seeing how you are disingenuous with the pictures you post I can see you have learned from clubfoot Josef 🤡😎
You know i’m disingenuous? And who?
Yes, I'm sure that some Germans were monsters too. I was focusing on Germany this time
You are right Mm. I have read many things that said what you infer.
Leon Uris wrote a book about the early years of allied occupation of Berlin, called "Armageddon". Highly recommend to all commenting here.
I will check it out. But I don’t know how much more I can take.
Yes my Mother told me stories that her aunts were raped and murdered by the incoming Russian troops. She was 13 when she had to flee the Russians. Her part of Germany is now Poland. 😓
Dear Elke
My mother, too, was aged 9 when her family fled East Prussia in 1941. She never spoke of that time, other than to say that the family was aboard one of three repurposed passenger liners that wasn’t sunk by Russian torpedoes.
Yes, I’m certain that she would have witnessed these atrocities.
I hope you have a good life, Elke, and are able to make these events so long ago in your family history as part of the woven tapestry of your evolution.
May your heart heal.
The very best of everything to you
She should not blame the Russians but blame Hitler and her parents instead…
Is there any evidence of British troops carrying out these sort of atrocities. .
Ooh! My name! My grandparents had stories too. My grandfather came from a small town in the Soviet Union called klimovici. In November of 1941 the German army came and rounded up all the Jews and forced the men to dig a hole. The men, women and children including my great grandparents and their 2 youngest children were forced to strip bare and the women and children were pushed into the pit. The Germans didn’t “waste” bullets on them. The men were lined up on the edge and shot into the pit. How do we know? One of my grandfathers brothers was serving in the Russian army fighting against the Germans and when he came home from the war he found a peasant woman in his parents house. He asked her what happened to his family and she told him. Her next comment was that it was a terrible night because they couldn’t sleep at all because the ground was moving underneath them.
Horrifying as this story is , what part did the British soldiers play in this murder and torture
Such a terrible terrible time.
My mother also was from that part of Germany and experienced the same. She was a child but remembers the atrocities.
I seriously don’t trust any history anymore
Seems all I’ve been taught is lies
I do know one thing, war is not organic!
No one would want such destruction voluntarily
War is created by those that have nothing to lose and everything to gain for it and whoever that is and anyone related to them need dealt with in the harshest way publicly as an example to anyone that would ever even consider benefiting from making us go to war
Indeed. And now it’s clear that the Zionist neocons have their puppets Zelensky and Bibi warmongering for Christian Americans to die, fight and pay for wars in Ukraine, Gaza and Iran. I oppose these neocon wars.
Islamic deflectionist braying loudly yet ignoring jihad jizia and dar l Islam
Regarding Zionists
Matthew 24:9
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake.
Jesus never did
the following:
•Ezekiel 37:21. Bring the Jewish people back to Israel
•Ezekiel 37:22 one nation with a king
•Ezekiel 37:24 Jewish people will all do the teachings of G-d.
•Isaiah 11:9-10 world wide knowledge of G-d.
•Ezekiel 37 & 47 building of the third Temple which will stand forever.
•Isaiah 2:4 No More war
•Deuteronomy 17:8-11 Jesus did not fullfil the Law. He was never recognized as a prophet or
FU2
https://youtu.be/wcOeiZddX1o?si=4eQ9XSgf1FVWHEtJ
Seems like a church you'd feel at home in
History is written and approved by the owners of the world
The people that fund both sides of wars, decide our tax dollars go to a USAID type org funding propaganda lies throughout the world via tv media etc
Always has, 100% ALWAYS
What we know is bullshit and we’re just beginning to scratch realities now that we know the above
The Great Awakening they say
I pray it’s successful as some are so asleep they’re in a coma, literally
The Islamic deflectionist charlatan charlotamuta bleats and blathers and propagandizes obscuring Truth and denying the atrocities of her fellow travelers.
Charlatans of the synagogue of Satan speak through Charlotte throwing darkness upon the world
Charlotte the spawn of Satan threatens to block me as I knock down her lies
"Who can challenge the rights of the Jews in Palestine? Good Lord, HISTORICALLY, IT IS REALLY YOUR COUNTRY..."Yusuf Diya al-Khalidi, Arab Mayor of Jerusalem, 1829.
If your Grand Mosque is built on the foundation of the Jewish Temple, I think that says a little something about who was there first.
Yasser Arafat himself said in his biography that "The Palestinians have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them an identity through conflict with Israel "
"Half of us Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis " Statement by Fathi Hammad, Member of the Hamas political bureau and interior minister in the Gaza strip from 2009 to 2014.
How many will the Muslims take down as they attempt to enact a caliphate?
Yet another Islamic deflectionist
Complete non-sense. I'm nowhere from the Middle East, and even I can recognise that Turkiye, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan are each separate powers who will not accept domination by the other.
How long will you continue provoking hysteria, because you're a highly-neurotic and intolerant bigot?
History is simply “what happened,” but the narratives we inherit are almost always politically biased. To get a clearer picture, either wait a century for perspectives to settle or apply critical thinking to everything presented as fact—at least 90% of it is distorted.
Doubt that? Look at the history of scientific breakthroughs. Consider Gregor Mendel, Ludwig Boltzmann, and Ignaz Semmelweis—a biologist, a physicist, and a medical doctor. Surely, they were treated with rational, scientific respect? Hardly. Mendel was ignored, Boltzmann was ridiculed and took his own life, and Semmelweis was dismissed as a madman and locked in an asylum. The “scientific process” you were taught is a polished, idealized version of reality.
And that’s science—where claims can be measured and tested. Now apply that to history, where measurement is difficult and experiments can’t be repeated—how reliable do you think those ‘facts’ are?
Think how much more innovation would have been allowed if Church led charlatans had not been suppressing the Jews who thought with all of their brain in search of true knowledge.
The curse of Jew hatred held Europe back and manifested its further Insanity with killing the Jews for surviving the plague because of their inherent hygiene advantage over the dirty pagans and Christians who didn't wash unlike the Jews.
Irrational Christian hatred kept Europe in the dark ages for centuries, after they expelled their Jews they had a 100-year war between the Catholics and the Protestants with Catholics not being welcome in England and Protestants being killed in France what a disputable reckless anti-civilizational movement it is to hate Jews.
The same Christians did inquisitions against Protestants Muslims and Jews withheld scientific progress imprisoned those who blasphemed and said that the Earth was not flat such primitive fuckery.
80 generations later the Jews have survived and continue to thrive in science and culture despite gentiles irrational hatred holding back civilizational progress
Jews survived? How so?
Pacelebrates 👀😂😜
Are you on meth with your spelling errors constantly commenting all over substack promoting the Nazi agenda? Nazis like their speed along with their shtupping, I bet you don't like talking about the movie The Pink swastika and the homo sexual culture deeply infused into Germany.
Scheiss porn from Germany is inexplicably popular also.
The only successful civilian protest against Hitler were the gentile women who had married Jewish men and didn't want them taken away. Street protests filled Berlin and Munich and it humiliated the one balled tyrant so much that he gave in and freed those Jews temporarily so as to force all the inevitable shame that he would bring upon Germany through his malevolent anti-human satanic manifestation of Christian genocide.
Found out a 54 year old healthy athletic man died of heart attack just awhile ago
So I’m more pissed, again
No mention of vax of course
No, can’t do that, as the asleep stay in their comas
Oh well gotta go to a meeting with a 25 year old kid having ticks of head and seizures and watch it for another hour
Dammit
Now.. the Art of WAR has changed hasn't it.
Weather and biological warfare against civilians. N.W.Order. off grid, unvaccinated, not A.I friendly nor politically believing either side isn't out to Flip the situation.
For the Ultimate Agenda.
STOP faith in Jesus for salvation
World War II was created off the back of one man's insane desire to reinstate a fictional fatherland. The failure to rebuild Germany after the totally meaningless First World War was the catalyst for all this. Terrible things were done on all sides, but the Nazis were the bad guys, and the documentary cited is neo-Nazi leaning propaganda, not to be ignored, but to be taken in the round and in context. Hopefully if the world ever sees a maniac attempting to do something like this again, we shut it down, don't capitulate, and certainly don't align.
"no one wants such destruction voluntarily. War is created by those that have nothing to lose and everything to gain" there's some truth to this such as the first world war. But many people do want more whether we like to admit it or not. many people are bloodthirsty especially if they can demonize and villainize their enemies. War was often seen as a good thing and a trial for "manhood" in many cultures throughout the world. through the most uncivilized and barbaric like North American amerindians to far more sophisticated and modern such as the Japanese.
This report and the comments are definitely food for thought. How brainwashed, whitewashed and misinformed we have been about this. History is written by the victors and not to be taken at face value. Germany did not go to war for no good reason, nor did Japan. The ‘liberators’ were not superior beings. My father was a boy in occupied Holland. He told us never to believe all the anti-German propaganda. They were not the monsters we’re ordered to believe of them. War is hell on earth of our own design as a fallen race.
Thank you Elizibeth
History was written by the biggest hypocrite genocide-monsters of them all: the marxist. My grandmother lived thru the war in occupied Norway. She told me nothing but good stories about the german soldiers. Like shielding her and her little sister with their own bodies in a ditch during and english act of aggression in the skies, that the guards turned their eyes away when her mother did the daily tour along the prisoner-fence, dropping food. EVERYTHING zio/kommie has told about WW2 is a lie! Everything! Commies are full on psychopaths! Watch “Europa: The last battle” on Bitchute, for example..
My father was a young boy in German occupied Holland. He had nothing but good stories about the German soldiers. I grew up listening to my father’s favourite music. German marching songs. I never believed that the Germans were the bad guys.
Yea, me neither. Too much of the official story sounds like BS. And the story comes from mainstream so it has to be lies.
One point of distinction, although there were rapes committed by the American and British troops it was not the policy of the American or British governments or their militaries and such behavior was not sanctioned, including being an executional offense. Unlike the Soviets, where it was the official government and military policy for their soldiers to rape every German female they could get their hands on irrespective of age. In Berlin alone in the first year after the war ended there were over a hundred thousand abortions performed. The policy of the Soviets was to punish the German people in perpetuity. In 1984 I crossed through Checkpoint Charlie from west to east Berlin and East Berlin was in the same state it had been in the day Berlin fell in ‘45. Bombed out buildings, with the rubble still where the buildings fell, still using the same trolley cars etc. it was literally stepping back in time. The Soviets refused to allow any money be used to rebuild Berlin or even clean it of the rubble.
German soldiers also did their fair share of raping women of the populations they subjugated, however again it was not the policy of the government or military to do so and German soldiers were executed on occasion according to their assignment, regular army vs. SS for example. The regular branches of the military having higher standards of behavior for their men than the SS which used rape as a tool of population compliance but on a much smaller scale since their numbers were fewer. The German Navy even disregarded Hitler’s orders to execute POWs, the officer class of the German Navy was the last remnants of the German aristocracy and held true to their values of honor. And let’s not forget the Japanese military’s rape of Nan King and their sexual enslavement of Korean women.
Thank you for the info.
That's a really good summary. My Hungarian grandmother was terrified of the Russians, even more than the Nazis -- which is saying something because she was hiding my Jewish grandfather from the Nazis. There are always crimes like rape committed during war, but most professional armies do not condon or encourage it as the Soviets (as they were then) did. And the Japanese were just as bad with their treatment of not just Korean but alao Chinese women.
The Japanese have formally apologized and made restitution. They have express shame for what they did
Ike refused to allow train loads of food supplies for the German people. The trains were sent back and the food rotted. Pregnant women often died because their body couldn't support two lives.
The situation didn't improve until Herbert Hoover used his political influence to ensure delivery of food supplies.
American policy although better than that found in the Russian Zone was nonetheless complicit. Through Operation Keelhaul American soldiers forced Germans onto rail trains to Siberian work-to-death camps.
The Rape of Nan King has been thoroughly debunked as propaganda
Utter bs. On so many levels that there is no point even to list the arguments. You're just a nut russophobe.
Oh!! Stalin was a real saint!! He killed more people in his collectivisation drive than the number of WWII deaths. The soviet army stopped advancing before entering Poland and encouraged Polish résistance to come out, waited till the Resistance were decimated to the last man and then entered. His protege, Putin, is responsible for countless deaths in Ukraine and Georgia. Stating historical facts do not make us phobes
Does information get in your way?
Complete reversal of the truth is the JEW WORLD ORDER of the day.
May the Jews continue to thrive with their healthy smiling families in Israel and throughout the world and specifically in the skate park between your ears that you've constructed for them to grind away daily, all day everyday mazel tov!
Those who bless Israel will be blessed those who curse Israel will be cursed
https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=TqC0s5SFBA0
Not going to read any Nazi bullshit links from you if you're not an adult enough to copy and paste fuck off with your Islamic deflectionism fuckery
You should watch the pink swastika before you fap for the night
"Who can challenge the rights of the Jews in Palestine? Good Lord, HISTORICALLY, IT IS REALLY YOUR COUNTRY..."Yusuf Diya al-Khalidi, Arab Mayor of Jerusalem, 1829.
If your Grand Mosque is built on the foundation of the Jewish Temple, I think that says a little something about who was there first.
Yasser Arafat himself said in his biography that "The Palestinians have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them an identity through conflict with Israel "
"Half of us Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis " Statement by Fathi Hammad, Member of the Hamas political bureau and interior minister in the Gaza strip from 2009 to 2014.
I bet you have zero DNA from the middle east. https://odysee.com/@AbeScott:b/HITLER-VS.-ROTHSCHILD--2022----(DOCUMENTARY-VIDEO):a
How is that Islamic deflectionism working out for you Christians represented by blowhards like you yelling at Jews in chat rooms fucking loser
horrifying at the start of 2023 -and now it's far, far worse.
3 million Christians displaced.
55,000 murdered. Over 20,000 churches burned to the ground. Thousands of Christian schools attacked, children raped, kidnapped, and slaughtered. Entire Christian communities wiped off the map. And yet, the world doesn't care. The UN stays silent. The media looks the other way. Because acknowledging this genocide would shatter their lie that Islam is a "religion of peace." Since 2023, the situation has only escalated, but no one is talking about it. How much worse does it have to get before the world finally wakes up?
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the Muslims were going western but that didn't fit the bill for the Jews at the top, so they created islamic fundamentalist POWER. it was easy because they had already created Christian fundamentalist POWER in the jUSA, to control the vote. these sinister Jew fucks at the top assassinated all of the moderate Muslim candidates to make sure that only the most radical Muslims came to be in charge of countries whereas formerly they had only been a fringe. Muslims were going to colleges and universities, wearing western cloths, listening to the Beatles etc, feeling groovy, and this was a big threat to the Jews at the top and all of their evil plans. Lots of big organized programs these Jews engineered to destroy the Muslim world. I know every detail of these matters. its all extremely well documented. Alan you are clearly the loser in any debate we might ever have. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/20/how-the-muslim-world-lost-the-freedom-to-choose/
*The fourteen-centuries-old
Islamic terrorism (e.g., three
of the first four caliphs were murdered in the seventh century) has not been triggered by despair, neither by the US, nor by Israel. Islamic terrorism has been triggered by the megalomaniacal aspiration to force the Western "infidel" and the Arab "apostate" to submit - unconditionally, peacefully or militarily - to Islam, the only "legitimate" religion, divinely-ordained to rule the world.
Hamas' anti-Western priority
*According to its 1988 covenant, Hamas is a branch of the anti-Western global Islamic terrorism.
*Hamas was established by the Muslim Brotherhood, whose vision is to topple all national Muslim regimes, establish a Quran-based universal society, and bring the "infidel" West to submission, peacefully or militarily.
*Hamas is heavily assisted by Iran's
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IN ANY WAR BETWEEN THE CIVILIZED MAN AND THE SAVAGE, SUPPORT THE CIVILIZED MAN.
☆SUPPORT ISRAEL DEFEAT JIHAD
brainwashed hasbara RETART. lets go to the video tape for some Jewpedia editing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52LB2fYhoY
May the skatepark that you've constructed between your ears for the Jews to grind away daily rent free continue to be fully populated with happy Jewish families thriving in their Homeland after 80th generations and elsewhere in the world wherever they wish.
And may your encounters with barbarians give you the consequences that you deserve in the upcoming diminishing hours of your life
IN ANY WAR BETWEEN THE CIVILIZED MAN AND THE SAVAGE, SUPPORT THE CIVILIZED MAN.
☆SUPPORT ISRAEL DEFEAT JIHAD
God, put an end to this evil satanic world.
Not Just Germany, but this horror visited them the most out of the areas where Soviets took over. All states where the Soviets took over had massive amounts of rapes of local girls & women. Where I am from, every village has stories of how the Communists came in, going from door to door and trying to take away young girls, married women and raping them or using them as play-things. Some women and men were driven to suicide, or murdered of course if they did not comply.
One of my grandfathers actually told me a story of how they stopped some Russian soldiers and "helped" them down a well, where they perished. They ambushed them one night as they were going to one of the houses where a family of 7 girls lived (mind you, most of their generation had 3-9 children). Since they knew boxing, they ambushed them and made quick work of the Communists. As a resting place they chose a local well, threw them down there and watched as they drowned in agony.
The stories of rape were told in every village, by people who witnessed it first hand. I asked my grandparents about what the Nazis did, in contrast. The answer? Nothing. They repaired a few things in the village(s) and bought supplies, then moved on. No atrocity, no rapes.
I would not have cared about this, had not my friends shared their grandparents' stories, which all were the same. Communists raped and pillaged, Nazis just marched through or helped out / bought stuff.
I believe it. Thank you for sharing
This, there were millions of rapes reported in Poland and Slovakia and Cehia that were “liberated” countries in theory.
That is rather quaint, Nazis helped out and bought stuff, what a nice story. Unfortunately facts paint a different picture. If you look into Wikipedia, which is not exactly a source of truth when it comes to political matters, you find things like "Hungerplan" which anticipated the starvation of 10's of millions of civilians because Germany did not have the means to support an army in the field, so they had to live off the land and therefore deprive the populations of food. You find things like "Einsatzgruppen" which were attached to the armies with the intent to eliminate (murder) undesirable elements such as jews, gypsies, and others, and I am sure some people take pride in the efficiency which they displayed in the pursuit of their goals. Then there is the "Kommisarbefehl" which basically removed the Geneva protection from communist functionaries in the Red Army and delivered them to murder - with the help of the Army. These are all things that can be looked up easily and are outside of the laws of war.
Less accessible, but also provable, are simple facts and population statistics - cities in Russia, that were under German occupation for 1 - 2 years, at the end of that time when they were liberated, had perhaps 5 or 10% of the population left, the rest mostly died of hunger, cold, violence on the part of German troops, or perhaps shipped off for slave labor. Velikie Luki is one such example and can be read up on in Wikipedia.
Interestingly, after the Red Army occupied cities in the Reich, the situation was different. I am originally from Austria and even the web site of the Viennese city government (and Wikipedia also) acknowledges that in May 1945, when the war was just ending, the so called "Maispende" (May donation) took place, providing 1000's of tons of wheat and other essentials like fat and sugar. I have not come across anything comparable on the part of the "clean" Wehrmacht providing food assistance to populations in Eastern Europe. And the statistics clearly show that populations in Germany and Austria were stable and did not decline as a result of occupation policy.
So hard for me to believe statements like "Nazis just marched through or helped out / bought stuff"
I replied in your restack. Thanks.
“The good guys won”
The Good Guys repatriated Thousands of those Fascist Nazis Scum to go the US because they were Deemed useful. Hitler , Mengele and Co lived out their Lives in STH America. The Rank and File Germans took the back Lash for what those Evil Scum had done .
Reinhard Gehlen, the Hitler SS-Gauleiter responsible for western Ukraine (Galicia), is responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles, Gypsies and political dissidents during the WW Two. He had incorporated the Ukrainian (Stjepan Bandera) and Baltic fascist in the ranks of the SS. After this scum of the earth had to flee from the Red Army, many of them were transferred to the US and Canada. Reinhard Gehlen himself became a US payed CIA agent, tasked to organise an anti-stalin riot at Ukraine which failed and ended 1956. Three hundred thousand more victims were produced under the supervision of the US.
What makes masses of people turn into murderers and rapists?
This is a question that needs an answer.
Ideology, envy, and hatred - particularly hatred of white Europeans.
Groupthink. Humans tend to lead (~4%), follow (~80%), or think independently (~16%). Early in the COVID-19 crisis, fear was understandable given the uncertainty. But as more data emerged, a few actors leveraged that fear, leading to extreme and often irrational policies.
Opportunity. And power.
A soldier has a gun and there are civians around.
Power is ALWAYS executed unless it is ceded.
Yes and people are very easily manipulated. We all have to ability to do good things or evil things...it's a choice.
Love is the masterplan
Let's assume all this is true. And not a plain Nazi propoganda. But let's put it in context. After Germans kilked 27 millions of Soviet people, burned babies alive in churches. Starved hundreds of thouthands of Leningrad citizens to death, war returned to Germany. And inly then innocent germans felt the rage of subhumans.
Impunity.
Propaganda.
All I know is THEY are All accountable to GOD. Had a choice, made the wrong choice, even if it meant saving their life.
It is Lack of wisdom to not fear God
Hate his created souls , even in this evil flesh.
Just think. If the world followed Thy Shalt not kill.?
But I don't think we see what's going to happen is going to be worse than anything in history of world.
Plenty of opportunity for us all to be put to test.
Who failed with Vacs.
That tells us where society is at.
Yes the Yanks must be proud of the Death and Misery that they have Caused .
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Reinhard Gehlen was military intelligence in charge of department of foreign armies east - obviously an abject failure at what he did. He was NOT Gauleiter and not part of the SS either, he was Wehrmacht.
More proof why war sucks. As if we needed any..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv_pogroms_(1941)
the 3rd to bottom pic is actually a jew being attacked.
Ok. Soon after the rapes and murders begin everyone is fair game
Nope.
Rape is horrible no matter the victim.
I recognize the pic because my family comes from that village.
Good call on noticing that picture wasn't from the 1944-1948 period in Germany.
But the post is trying to address the MASSIVE OVERSIGHT regarding heart-wrenching German suffering in the WWII era.
You're right to say that rape is horrible no matter the victim.
But the attention given to Jewish suffering from that period has not been lacking - and I think there are a number of, oh, what shall we call them, errors?, on the part of Jewish historians who have assembled the official WWII narrative.
Was there anything else in the article you cared to comment on?
Speaking of questionable numbers he throws out tens of thousands of boys being anally raped and damaged without any footnotes and then moves on like Europeans were butt banging boys what they had fresh female flesh? That's some out there shit and yet you're bringing up questionable numbers about Jews 🧐
I weep for my people. My grandparents and great-grandparents were forced to flee East Prussia and Silesia. My great-greatgrandma however stayed in Königsberg and died. My grandma’s aunt was raped and committed suicide afterwards. My grandfather never talked about his experiences fleeing as a teenager. I can’t begin to imagine the horrors they saw and felt. All I can do is honor their memory, remember them and heal the pain of losing not only their homes, but also their homeland, nation and national identity. Thank you for this post.
Hitler started it all!
Hitler tried tried to negotiate peace-deals 11 times before the allies forced the war. This is well documented and easy to find.
The guy wrote the whole book about the need of mass extermination of nations and somehow the allies (governments which allowed him to take Austria and Czechoslovakia) are still to blame
He had ratted on peace in our time. Of course he wanted peace - on his terms.